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One of the goals for bands hitting up SXSW – besides the sun and parties – is to make an impression… for something besides the sun and parties. And Toronto’s Zeus were mighty successful on all counts, it seems. They made Esquire’s "Possibly Life-Changing Musical Discoveries from SXSW 2012" and nods from NPR to Jimmy Fallon but also covered their gastronomical exploits, too. 

Of course all of this good stuff makes releasing your new album that much sweeter, and today Zeus officially gives us “Busting Visions” the follow up to their 2010 debut “Say Us.” I’ll be joined on the show by Mike O'Brien.

LISTEN to Zeus's feature interview:

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alsace lorraine
#1 posted by
alsace lorraine
on Mar 27, 2012

Busting Visions is pretty good, I listened this morning.

garfielduk
#2 posted by
garfielduk
on Mar 27, 2012

@Lisa, Hello Miss.

 

@Zeus, Hello, I can hardly wait to see you play live in Newcastle

flagpole music
#3 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

Lisa - everyone's still on Grants page going nuts about the train announcement but I'll bet they'll migrate here soon.

Am I allowed to request "River By the Garden" if you chose to do some old school of Zeus?  excited about the new album!

kirkofdoom
#4 posted by
kirkofdoom
on Mar 27, 2012

I got the album this morning, but won't have a chance to listen until after work! And then I don't know if i'll have time to listen to that and Scrappy Happiness before heading out to see Bahamas.

I know, I know. First world problems.

alsace lorraine
#5 posted by
alsace lorraine
on Mar 27, 2012

@Kirk. Life is pretty hard! Sounds like a good day though.

zoot aloors
#6 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

Zeus, will you toughen up Dan Mangan's image while on tour together, or will you guys get sensitized?

Atrian
#7 posted by
Atrian
on Mar 27, 2012

The birds just shit on my car. I very much connect with this song.

westcrunch
#8 posted by
westcrunch
on Mar 27, 2012

@Kirk: Well, if you're really struggling, you can listen to most of scrappy happiness on JP's CBC band page and can then listen to Zeus on the way home. But I get that CBC band page may not be the same as listening all at once in album form.

124th Street Beat
#9 posted by
124th Street Beat
on Mar 27, 2012

Hi Lisa/Zeus

Are there any plans for a US tour? And so, how about Madison Wi? I would love to see Zeus live, it would make me very happy.

kirkofdoom
#10 posted by
kirkofdoom
on Mar 27, 2012

at westcrunch, 

i could listen to both right now, while at work, actually... but i'd be listening with one earbud and the peak on in the background, so... not the idea "first listen" scenario! plus, i like to listen to a full album all the way through and i'd be inturrupted too much.

i'm sure i'll figure something out, haha.

loweeda
#11 posted by
loweeda
on Mar 27, 2012

hey, is it kosher to ask what the big 'train' announcement was?  I missed the end of Grant's show, so I didn't hear it.

124th Street Beat
#12 posted by
124th Street Beat
on Mar 27, 2012

And to Zeus- 

great job on Q this morning!

 

UATB
#13 posted by
UATB
on Mar 27, 2012

see you at the "club", zoot

zoot aloors
#14 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

@ Lo, a concert train will be wending its way towards this year's NxNE! Big News.

westcrunch
#15 posted by
westcrunch
on Mar 27, 2012

I'm sure you will, Kirk. Through sheer fandom, and catching the new songs each week on R2, I think I've probably listened to Scrappy Happiness through 4 times already. Zeus, on the other hand, is on my mind for the bus ride tonight

flagpole music
#16 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

@zoot - I have this picture of Zeus taking Dan out to parking lots & beating him on a nightly with socks filled with flour to toughen him up.

 

@loweeda - it's a train trip with bands going from Vancouver to Toronto for NXNE & R3 gets to help pick some of the bands.  Grants says to be on the lookout for Tracks on Tracks starting next week. 

flagpole music
#17 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

also - it sounds like some fans will get a chance to win to be on board also.  cool, eh?

zoot aloors
#18 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

@ flagpole, That's what I wanna hear! (both counts)

loweeda
#19 posted by
loweeda
on Mar 27, 2012

An NXNE train?  I am so on that train!  do we have to win tickets?  or can we buy them, too?  If we can, and if it goes through London, I would like to be on it.  Will it?  I guess I'll stay tuned to find out.  Anyway, exciting news!  And a great idea.  Thanks, zoot and flagpole for filling me in.

kirkofdoom
#20 posted by
kirkofdoom
on Mar 27, 2012

westcrunch, i actually avoided all the JPE rollout, because i wanted to listen to it as one whole album. well... that, and I didn't want to get up early enough to hear them on Craig's show.

carrieg
#21 posted by
carrieg
on Mar 27, 2012

talk about the train to NXNE !

zoot aloors
#22 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

@Mike O'Brien, what's the main difference in mounting your own tour, as opposed to backing an established artist, as you have in the past? More responsibilities? More glory?

flagpole music
#23 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

I should look at the tour I guess. we just had Dan in September but would LOVE to see Zeus live.  they'd be great at the Echoplex.

& i can bring flour. i keep it on hand. for the baking.  @Zoot - shall I bake a diorama of aforementioned beat down?

flagpole music
#24 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

#16. also, I forgot the word basis in my typing but I heard it in my own head.  does that count?

zoot aloors
#25 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

Can you make a Dan Bejar out of SourDough?

flagpole music
#26 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

i don't generally make any cookies out of sour dough......but ha!

Shonica
#27 posted by
Shonica
on Mar 27, 2012

Hi Lisa!

Congratulations Zeus on a great new album.

I have been a fan of Zeus since I first saw them with Jason Collette!

flagpole music
#28 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

i told someone I was going to recreate the cover of "When Lost at Sea" in cookies when Wooden Sky is here in a couple weeks. was that on here?  I was ignored. but I still might do it...

zoot aloors
#29 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

@ UATB, thanks that reminds me, any body wishing to ask Tim Riley a question, ask it by tomorrow!! Vish has his Lennon interview Wednesday, so put your book worm shoes on and get a move on...

flagpole music
#30 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

hmmm...Zeus - is it a mere coincidence that your listed tour dates end in Toronto 2 days before NXNE starts? shall we be on the lookout for more?

& will you tour the States soon!  (los angeles, pretty please, for R3LAX)

zoot aloors
#31 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

Last Great Canadian Band? Zit Remedy.

zoot aloors
#32 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

@ Mike O'Brien - Who did the string arrangements on Busting Visions?

garfielduk
#33 posted by
garfielduk
on Mar 27, 2012

@zoot #31, I tought you would have said Canned Hamm

zoot aloors
#34 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

@ Garf, I couldn't pick a real band! lol

garfielduk
#35 posted by
garfielduk
on Mar 27, 2012

@zoot, Canned Hamm is a real band!?

alsace lorraine
#36 posted by
alsace lorraine
on Mar 27, 2012

Noooooooo, I accidentally refreshed during the question and missed bits...

fresh ginger
#37 posted by
fresh ginger
on Mar 27, 2012

@zoot.. where does one find Vish's book club?

zoot aloors
#38 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

the Zeusloan connection was touched upon during GL's show. To hear Mike giving them props is beautiful symmetry..

Fresh, look in the Rock Tab for  a Lennon picture, look for the Book Club logo!

TheRadioHead
#39 posted by
TheRadioHead
on Mar 27, 2012

I've been thinking since hearing the intro about all the good reviews for Zeus.

It's most disappointing in this current phase of mimicing of music from the 60's and 70's that more reviewers aren't calling out musicians for being artistically and creatively lazy.  You'd think that more than a few should be able to recognize that.

The music of that era was so great because it was revolutionary, socially relevent, and new.  Current musicians are cutting and pasting and pretending it's theirs.

Old Abe
#40 posted by
Old Abe
on Mar 27, 2012

@ FG - http://music.cbc.ca/genres/Rock/blogs/2012/3/Whatcha-Readin-Questions-about-Lennon-by-Tim-Riley

daa1982
#41 posted by
daa1982
on Mar 27, 2012

Whoops...Dial tone

zoot aloors
#42 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

or just...http://music.cbc.ca/blogs/2012/3/Whatcha-Readin-Questions-about-Lennon-by-Tim-Riley There is a number of threads in the prvious weeks to search for but this is the latest thread...

Really? Dial Tone??? Lisa, did you forget to pay the phone bill before you left for Hawaii??

zammachus
#43 posted by
zammachus
on Mar 27, 2012

Awww. Did I already miss in innerview?

zoot aloors
#44 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

You can't fake this kind of vocal harmony, descriptive song lyrics, of compositive clarity. Please don't talk about stealing others musical ideas, because it doesn't hold water on this thread.

flagpole music
#45 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

the hirsute tour

Benoit from Ottawa
#46 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Mar 27, 2012

RasdioHead, I asgree with you to an extent, but do think you're laying it on too thick. "Artistically and creatively lazy"; "(more) should be able to recognise; "cutting and pasting and pretending it's theirs"; those are three points that IMO go to far. Oh, it's expressive writing, but it seems to give today's people short shrift, and mean judgment.

Not meaning to attack you, or to argue too much; just an opinion faced with yours, which I've read three or four times in the last few weeks.

Smiley.

Benoit from Ottawa
#47 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Mar 27, 2012

Rasdiohead? RastadioHead? Sorry!

Benoit from Ottawa
#48 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Mar 27, 2012

to far = too far, geez.

zammachus
#49 posted by
zammachus
on Mar 27, 2012

BfO

You're failing at computers.

daa1982
#50 posted by
daa1982
on Mar 27, 2012

Any music which isn't Oompa music sucks.

There...I said what we're all thinking.

garfielduk
#51 posted by
garfielduk
on Mar 27, 2012

@daa #50, get out of my head man

zoot aloors
#52 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

Rasdiohead? RastadioHead? Sorry! My gosh, it's like watching Muhammad Ali miss the speedbag!!

daa1982
#53 posted by
daa1982
on Mar 27, 2012

@Garf...Sorry..I didn't mean to be in your ships toilet.

zammachus
#54 posted by
zammachus
on Mar 27, 2012

Question

How does Zeus like their steak?

Benoit from Ottawa
#55 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Mar 27, 2012

WELL, Mr daa, you should be at the Sheep Friday for Mike Essoudry's Mashed Potato Mashers!

Link on page http://www.soundofmusic.on.ca/bands/view/mashed-potato-mashers

garfielduk
#56 posted by
garfielduk
on Mar 27, 2012

@zammy I like mine whale done

Benoit from Ottawa
#57 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Mar 27, 2012

zamm: lightning-struck and smouldering

zoot aloors
#58 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

Wow, what a cool interview! I'm so happy I shot those questions off! Lisa you're the best, thanks a lot!

zammachus
#59 posted by
zammachus
on Mar 27, 2012

I hope Zeus doesn't bolt down their food. They are liable to choke.

Lisa Christiansen
#60 posted by
Lisa Christiansen
on Mar 27, 2012

@zoot - thanks for your questions!

Benoit from Ottawa
#61 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Mar 27, 2012

46 contained three typos. Three! I hang my head in pride. Hold on...

Benoit from Ottawa
#62 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Mar 27, 2012

zamm gets points!

flagpole music
#63 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

LISA!!  i'm 'someone' in Los Angeles?!?!?!  well, 124th was someone in Madison so I'm in good anonymous company, I guess....

zammachus
#64 posted by
zammachus
on Mar 27, 2012

Are they Esso Extra points? I could use some cheap gas...

I suppose I could just eat a 50-cent microwave burrito.

TheRadioHead
#65 posted by
TheRadioHead
on Mar 27, 2012

@Zoot

Singing is singing-lots of people do it well, just go to church and listen to the choir.  It's what you do with it, isn't it?

Ya Benoit, I know I have been going on about it.  But looking backwards is easy, it's ALL there on Youtube free for the taking.  Looking ahead into a void and trying to fill it is hard.  That is art, and that deserves accolades. 

I'll stop for a spell if it's bugging people. But I'm not listening either :(   I'm listening to a NEW piece of music written for cello!  I'll come back later.

Lisa Christiansen
#66 posted by
Lisa Christiansen
on Mar 27, 2012

@flagpole - I was trying to remember without looking! not my best skill. most sorry. you are always more than someone.

zoot aloors
#67 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

@ RadioHead, au contraire! please keep contributing any time, you're the best debater around! And just because we have at it every now and then doesn't add up to any hate or any anger ever!

krib
#68 posted by
krib
on Mar 27, 2012

the retro thing is always happening in some way. There was blues in the 60s, especially in the UK. There was folk in the 70s (like Renaissance folk. Steeley Span, Fairport Convention...) There was the rockabilly revival in the 80s, the swing revival in the 90s. TWO ska revivals. Celtic.

It happens. There's nothing wrong with it. Hell, it was much worse in the 60s. Many of the bands then were living largely on covers and didn't start writing their own stuff until later (like the Yardbirds)

flagpole music
#69 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

haha - @Lisa - i'm sooooo just teasing you. he doesn't know who we are so saying the ciites is way easier:)

Benoit from Ottawa
#70 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Mar 27, 2012

The Radio, it's not the "going on about it": I think your overall thought about it-- which I'm sure is not completely offbase -- may have gained undue importance in your mind, i.e. more than it actually has.

Remember also that "originality" is a plus, but ain't a criterion, except sometimes; mostly, music, other craft and art(s) follow along lines of previous endeavours; being original is great, but isn't a prerequisite. Being "great" is, I believe, the criterion, however quasi-impossible it may be to apply.

Benoit from Ottawa
#71 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Mar 27, 2012

Last sentence, recast for one wprd:

"Being "excellent" is, I believe, the criterion, however quasi-impossible it may be to apply."

Benoit from Ottawa
#72 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Mar 27, 2012

For one wprd: pwned.

krib
#73 posted by
krib
on Mar 27, 2012

TRH,

yeah, you've said it many times.

I just don't agree with you that all this electronica you're so in love with is as "forward thinking" as you think it is. Maybe it's because i was listening to a whole bunch of it while you were raising kids, so it's all new and fresh to you. I hear echos of so much that went before in that stuff.

I'm curious about one thing you said:

"a NEW piece written for cello"

what's so new about that? Cello's been around for centuries, n'est pas? Zeus writes their own stuff, so it's NEW music, too

zoot aloors
#74 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

Unless you're Bjork or GG Allin, you're generally educated by the music you are most predisposed to. Zeus don't sing Inuit throat songs because it's not in their musical vocabuary, nothing wrong with that...they are children of the seventies, so is Daniel Romano, and Yukon Blonde and on and on... the wheel keeps rolling on...

krib
#75 posted by
krib
on Mar 27, 2012

listening to this song every day this week might make me sick of it

 

 

(Kidding! I could never be sick of this song. The only possible catch is not being in the mood for something this mellow when it's played)

flagpole music
#76 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

aww...yeah. this is a song I'm never sick of.  I'm still working on my mix cd for my pal in London & debating which Dan to use.  but  leaning towards "Daffodil" or "Pine for Cedars"

Benoit from Ottawa
#77 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Mar 27, 2012

Rejected featurette:

"Songs I can't stand, but then I'm masochistic."

garfielduk
#78 posted by
garfielduk
on Mar 27, 2012

@BfO #77 I like that idea

grub
#79 posted by
grub
on Mar 27, 2012

Benoit,Radiohead, interesting discussion ,but you both must know all ideas are based on something is this retro. There are very few original ideas in this world just the use of tec. to rework it.

musicjoy3
#80 posted by
musicjoy3
on Mar 27, 2012

This is such a pretty song! I've wanted to see and check out this band more for years!

musicjoy3
#81 posted by
musicjoy3
on Mar 27, 2012

Woodpigeon, I mean.

musicjoy3
#82 posted by
musicjoy3
on Mar 27, 2012

Is Kate Nash from Cub? When I heard this song before I was rather nonplussed. But, now hearing it again I find it very cute!

It also really reminds me of her adorable and I mean adorable grandmother! 98 years old, I think. And still full of pep and character.

zoot aloors
#83 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

Kate Nash is a British new wave star. Big worldwide act in the 1980's. 

musicjoy3
#84 posted by
musicjoy3
on Mar 27, 2012

Oh ya. Sorry! Me bad. But wasn't that a Cub song? It sounded familiar. I think Cub did that song at the Mint Records book event last Fall.

zoot aloors
#85 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

Garf should be able to confirm this I think...

krib
#86 posted by
krib
on Mar 27, 2012

grub,

exactly! To get all biblical, "there is nothing new under the sun" (from Ecclesiastes, one of the more interesting books in the bible. And relatively short)

The song Turn, Turn, Turn that was a big hit by the Byrds was just a bunch of lines stolen from Ecclesiastes (written by Pete Seeger, evidently)

garfielduk
#87 posted by
garfielduk
on Mar 27, 2012

@zoot, huh what?

Steve Venegas
#88 posted by
Steve Venegas
on Mar 27, 2012

@84 That was a Cub over

nvp
#89 posted by
nvp
on Mar 27, 2012

it was a cub song yes, i love both versions.

it's on the Nardwaur album, (on 'splattered' vinyl !) that also has his band with Jill Barber.

zoot aloors
#90 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

True, it's a cub cover on the new Evaporators LP Busy Doing Nothing

Steve Venegas
#91 posted by
Steve Venegas
on Mar 27, 2012

and by that i mean cover

zoot aloors
#92 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

Garf, do you not remember Kate Nash, back in the 1980's?

musicjoy3
#93 posted by
musicjoy3
on Mar 27, 2012

@krib, #68. True. Doesn't bother me one bit. I just find it intriguing, mostly. The waves of all that.

I used to really like what I thought was a rather underground indie rock style of music about a decade ago. Modest Mouse, Doves, Built To Spill, Death Cab for Cutie. But then...lo and behold...it seemed like several years where EVERY band and EVERYONE wanted to be the next Death Cab for Cutie style band. That or the next Arcade Fire. I got so tired of it after a while.

Now there's this big wave of very retro, dreamy, echoey pop style that reminds me of 50's and 60's. Dance halls and stuff. I'm kindof curious what brought that on...

garfielduk
#94 posted by
garfielduk
on Mar 27, 2012

@zoot, I didn't know anything about her before she appeared on Nardwuars album *shame*

musicjoy3
#95 posted by
musicjoy3
on Mar 27, 2012

Thanks, Steve. #88. That's pretty cool eh! A big international pop star doing a cover of a song by a pretty obscure and not so well known band. What a compliment!

musicjoy3
#96 posted by
musicjoy3
on Mar 27, 2012

That song on is on the new Evaporators album?! Cool.

zoot aloors
#97 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

Aw don't worry Garf, I'm about 5 years older than you, huge in high school years.

ubermiguel
#98 posted by
ubermiguel
on Mar 27, 2012

@ TheRadioHead (way back @ 39); I'm with you on the backwards looking bands.  I'm not a fan of bands that totally rip off an old sound (the lo-fi Mowtown sound is especially irksome).

But I do enjoy Zeus because they have some solid songwriting and I hear their joy in the music they're making.

alsace lorraine
#99 posted by
alsace lorraine
on Mar 27, 2012

@zoot. Wikipaedia tells me that Kate Nash was born in '87, so I'm pretty sure she's not been making music that long.

musicjoy3
#100 posted by
musicjoy3
on Mar 27, 2012

Lo fi Motown sound? Ya, maybe that's a good way to describe it. I agree, tho. It is a bit overdone. Only a few do it really, really well, tho, I think.

alsace lorraine
#101 posted by
alsace lorraine
on Mar 27, 2012

This makes it sound like Marie doesn't exist. She is just the "person" Lisa talks to sometimes.

krib
#102 posted by
krib
on Mar 27, 2012

Alsace beat me to it.

Zoot, you and I are the same age by the sound of it, and I was thinking "why don't I know a Kate Nash from the 80s?"

are you thinking Kate Bush, maybe?

krib
#103 posted by
krib
on Mar 27, 2012

Ubermiguel,

why is it irksome? I'm curious to know.

 

musicjoy3
#104 posted by
musicjoy3
on Mar 27, 2012

Man, I wasn't tuning in with FULL attention! Actually, I'm busy doing a much needed project and only sortof listening with one ear. Or whatever.

So forgive me for not recognising the British accent and remembering who Kate Nash is. I actually have seen her perform once. Years ago, when she wasn't so well known in North America yet. Didn't excite me too much, I gotta say.

Ok, back to my project! Don't wanna make another foolish faux pas again and be called out again for it! Yikes. Embarassing.

garfielduk
#105 posted by
garfielduk
on Mar 27, 2012

Tequila http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hLQCA2h8kA

 

zoot aloors
#106 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

oh wow, i'm thinking Kate Bush all this time, so sorry.

musicjoy3
#107 posted by
musicjoy3
on Mar 27, 2012

Is it just me or is there alot of perfectionism going on around.....almost everywhere I turn....no matter who the person is I'm dealing with. In whatever function, too.

Don't make a mistake! Don't mistake! Do it right! Do it right! Don't do it wrong! What's wrong with you? Why didn't you do it right?

(Sorry. Thought I was on a therapist's couch there for a minute.....rant rant rant...)

garfielduk
#108 posted by
garfielduk
on Mar 27, 2012

@zoot, oh I've heard of her

 

@musicjoy3, how long have you felt this way?

krib
#109 posted by
krib
on Mar 27, 2012

musicjoy,

good to know it's everywhere. The IT world is crazy that way

zoot aloors
#110 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

i guess sometimes when you think you've put your point across to people, you just end up with cross people.

darbarspecial
#111 posted by
darbarspecial
on Mar 27, 2012

@zoot/krib/garf - I wondered if you meant Kate Bush, but I see you have it all figured out now. :)

TheRadioHead
#112 posted by
TheRadioHead
on Mar 27, 2012

Thanks all for your feedback.  And thanks for being patient with me.

 

I guess why this gets under my skin in such a big way is the blatentness of "look how great we are, we sound like 40 years ago".  Big deal, that's easy. 

How about thinking about what 40 years into the future would sound like? That would really be remarkable...and hard.

Art is a reflection of what is going on in the culture at that time.  I think this phase of mimicing the past rather than envisioning the future says a lot about the state of this generation. They are reluctant to take on the future, and prefer the comfort of the nest their parents have made.

End of rant, I have to leave. But thanks, honestly. 

ubermiguel
#113 posted by
ubermiguel
on Mar 27, 2012

@ krib & musicjoy;

In my mind I label the lo-fi Mowtown sound as a "genre experiement" (same thing happens with alt-country sound and symphonic pop and garage).

With these genre-experiments I picture the artists saying "lets make a <insert genre here> record" but then forgetting to write good songs. 

I guess it comes down to the songs.  If there's a hook, or a solid centre than a genre-experiment can be great fun, but a genre-experiment without good songs is irksome.  If you're going to have bad songs at least try to make a new sound.

124th Street Beat
#114 posted by
124th Street Beat
on Mar 27, 2012

Everytime I hear this song I feel a little burst of happiness. It is amazing the power of nostalgia. Long live the Inbreds (through Mike O'Neill)

ubermiguel
#115 posted by
ubermiguel
on Mar 27, 2012

Wooooo!  Full Metal Podcast!  Looking forward to it.  I love me some good metal.

krib
#116 posted by
krib
on Mar 27, 2012

maybe. maybe they're scared to try to take on the world that their parents have messed up so badly

I think that "look how great we are" is a bit overstated.

flagpole music
#117 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

arghh........my router was cutting in & out.  i'm just able to see comments but still running very slowly. don't like missing Lisa (but I don't think it's you guys.  i was getting a yellow light instead of blue so I blmae Belkin)

zoot aloors
#118 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

[#107] I'm weaning myself off of fixing typos in here for folks, unless there's a joke to be had, I guess. I think it's fun but it obviously can be infuriating too. Sorry for my perfectionistic parsing of any paragraphs you may have all penned.

124th Street Beat
#119 posted by
124th Street Beat
on Mar 27, 2012

Is Zeus included in this? I can kind of see this critism leveled at the Sheepdogs, although I personally quite like them, but Zeus does look into the future. They take a great old sound from the 70's that should NEVER die and make it even better since their songs tend to be a little more deep and thoughtful.

Regardless, thinking a little philosophically, rock'n roll doesn't have the same formalized musical structure as say jazz, where people can keep on making 'old school' sounding jazz and not get critisized for it (if they do it right that is- like what ubermiguel said- as long songs are good, it is OK)- so why not with some of the classic sounds of rock n' roll? Why did great harmonizing have to die in the late 60's? Why can't we revisit some of the great styles of the past? 

CDNz1
#120 posted by
CDNz1
on Mar 27, 2012

@zoot - Keep it up. I like the fact that we're a front-runner for the award "2012 Best Spelling For A Blog"

zammachus
#121 posted by
zammachus
on Mar 27, 2012

Woo! Into 2 programs now. Accepted for GIS at Fanshawe!

darbarspecial
#122 posted by
darbarspecial
on Mar 27, 2012

Retro - I don't really care if it is or isn't if I like the sound it works for me. New, old, international, Canadian....if "it's got a good beat and I can dance to it" I am happy. I do tend to get more bored with pop and country than anything else though. It is amusing when the young whipper snappers discover some "new" sound that is just new to them but has actually been around a long time.

Full Metal Podcast! Yay!

krib
#123 posted by
krib
on Mar 27, 2012

Zam,

the CIO at Algonquin is a friend of mine. Not that it helps you in any way. Just sayin'

flagpole music
#124 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

i can talk but i can't hear anything yet.... so sad.

124th Street Beat
#125 posted by
124th Street Beat
on Mar 27, 2012

@CDNz1

Sorry, I dragged down our chances of that one a bit

critisized = criticized

garfielduk
#126 posted by
garfielduk
on Mar 27, 2012

@zammy #121 Contrats again

alsace lorraine
#127 posted by
alsace lorraine
on Mar 27, 2012

@zammy. Congrats! What is GIS? And what is the other program you got into?

krib
#128 posted by
krib
on Mar 27, 2012

this is what I'm listening to right now. very "retro" old school French folk sound to it

http://soundcloud.com/malikasellami/laura 

flagpole music
#129 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

also the Narduwar featuring Kate Nash is definitely going on my mix to send my pal. he has to learn about Narduwar

zammachus
#130 posted by
zammachus
on Mar 27, 2012

GIS is Global Information Systems. It's basically modern cartography with satellite imagery and such. That's what both programs I've been accepted to are thus far. Still waiting on 3 in journalism.

 

leigheldridge
#131 posted by
leigheldridge
on Mar 27, 2012

I've now had too much coffee to formulate a coherent response to the "retro" discussion. Suffice it to say that I LOVE ZEUS, and I can't wait for their show here in May. 

ZEEEEUUUUUSSSS!!! :D

alsace lorraine
#132 posted by
alsace lorraine
on Mar 27, 2012

That's pretty cool. I know j-schools can be pretty hard to get into, so good luck!

124th Street Beat
#133 posted by
124th Street Beat
on Mar 27, 2012

@zammachus

cool, I wish I had taken more GIS courses, it really bits me in the ass sometimes that I don't have a lot of skill in that are (as a geologist)- lots of demand I think out there for a good remote sensor/GIS specialist. Good luck with the journalism admissions, hear those can be tough.

flagpole music
#134 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

@Dar #122 - i was thinking the same thing but internet very sketchy at the moment.

124th Street Beat
#135 posted by
124th Street Beat
on Mar 27, 2012

bits=bites

gads, have to proof read, which, ironically, I am doing right now on a manuscript.

garfielduk
#136 posted by
garfielduk
on Mar 27, 2012

Has everyone seen this? Everything Is a Remix in particular part one http://vimeo.com/14912890

 

leigheldridge
#137 posted by
leigheldridge
on Mar 27, 2012

Except that I just realized that their Vancouver show is on the weekend of Sasquatch fest. DEVASTATED. :(

124th Street Beat
#138 posted by
124th Street Beat
on Mar 27, 2012

are = area, that is it, I am signing off. 

third time unlucky and personally destroying any chance for the best spelling in a blog award. 

kirkofdoom
#139 posted by
kirkofdoom
on Mar 27, 2012

at leigh

i realised that last week, but have been in denial...

krib
#140 posted by
krib
on Mar 27, 2012

Garf,

it's a guy named Kirby, so it's got to be good

ubermiguel
#141 posted by
ubermiguel
on Mar 27, 2012

@ 124th;

I think every genre has a life-cycle where it starts with all new creation but ends with pure recycling of old sounds.  Jazz got there years ago.  Rock is pretty much there now.  Pop tends not to care how the music is made so it follows the latest music technology and adds a singer.

Was watching the "Metal Evolution" series and there are old school bangers complaining about the new bands not being "metal".  At some point our concpet of a genre becomes frozen, so to do something new you have to leave that genre.

And then there are guys like Chad VanGaalen that seem to defy genre.

leigheldridge
#142 posted by
leigheldridge
on Mar 27, 2012

@kirk we'll just have to listen to the new album on the way there...and back. on repeat.

krib
#143 posted by
krib
on Mar 27, 2012

except for being on Vimeo. The one server they have doesn't seem to keep up with demand too well

124th Street Beat
#144 posted by
124th Street Beat
on Mar 27, 2012

@ubermiguel

Great thoughts, so true.

I pine for good old punk rock though, that is a genre that has been suffering greatly for a long time. EMO blargh

garfielduk
#145 posted by
garfielduk
on Mar 27, 2012

@krib #143, I just pause it until the video is fully buffered

krib
#146 posted by
krib
on Mar 27, 2012

yes, about midnight or so...

krib
#147 posted by
krib
on Mar 27, 2012

I will look it up again later tonight. That guy was a contributor when Spark was into their "crowdsource" phase. I remember because, well, he's about the 6th person ever I've encountered with the name Kirby.

leigheldridge
#148 posted by
leigheldridge
on Mar 27, 2012

re: "cutting and pasting and calling it theirs" 

I know Pat's left for the day and that this goes back really far on the blog but...the rock music of the 60s/70s revolutionary and original? some of it yes, but many (very well known) groups from the 60s and 70s blatantly ripped off black blues musicians. some now (the Sheepdogs, for one) are essentially just replicating sounds from the 70s, but I agree with 124th Street Beat when he says that Zeus is putting their own personality into a retro sound (and that the 60s/70s sound should never die). It's classic rock for a reason. ;)

ubermiguel
#149 posted by
ubermiguel
on Mar 27, 2012

@ 124th;

LOL! But is Emo punk?  I always thought they came from hardcore and goth.  It's like Bauhaus and the Misfits untalented love-child.  Ugh, I can't keep up with all the genre divisions.  In the end I divide my music into the two categories: stuff I like & stuff I don't.

zammachus
#150 posted by
zammachus
on Mar 27, 2012

Oy....  LindseyWho just landed the best pun on me.

"Come to Fanshawe. It'll be a riot!"

krib
#151 posted by
krib
on Mar 27, 2012

124th,

yes. IMO, Rancid was the last band to do it justice. I usually just listen to them, or the Clash

krib
#152 posted by
krib
on Mar 27, 2012

Leigh,

yes! I said something similar in #68. In fact, the retro thing comes around goes around a lot, in a variety of genres

krib
#154 posted by
krib
on Mar 27, 2012

The Sheepdogs are replicating the sounds of the 70s, but I don't think there's a single 70s band that they sound like. I know some said the Allman Brothers, but I think the Allman Bros were more countrified than Sheepdogs.

I thought Zeus sounded a lot like early Kinks on Say Us.

 

garfielduk
#155 posted by
garfielduk
on Mar 27, 2012

@ubermiguel #149, that's the 2 categories I use as well

 

I think the pentatonic scale with a steady 4 beats to the bar is so last year, I prefer random atonal sounds played to a constantly varying rhythm (aka noise)

leigheldridge
#156 posted by
leigheldridge
on Mar 27, 2012

@Krib I came back from lunch with CMac and had to skim through everything to find out what was going on. glad I didn't just completely reiterate your comment. 

The Sheepdogs sound like a blend of Allman Brothers, The Guess Who and CSNY to me.

124th Street Beat
#157 posted by
124th Street Beat
on Mar 27, 2012

@leigheldridge

great point about the blues- I am presently going through a blues phase and buying all sorts of old blues records. You can really see the influence on rockin roll, mostly the 50's to mid-60's though- I think at that point it started evolving into more of its 'own' sound (still built on a blues foundation though) - Oh and I am a she- that is my husband in the blog photo- first time I took him out fishing!



krib
#158 posted by
krib
on Mar 27, 2012

yes. I hear a lot of Guess Who in their sound, because they're better singers than the Allman Bros

I wonder if there had been blogs in the 80s, if people would have been complaining about the Stray Cats being so unoriginal? Or the Mighty Mighty Bosstones dredging up Ska yet again

leigheldridge
#159 posted by
leigheldridge
on Mar 27, 2012

@124th sorry!! it's hard to tell from people's pictures, I guess. my bad!

krib
#160 posted by
krib
on Mar 27, 2012

124th,

look up the Yardbirds. Their history is pretty much how it went for lots of bands. Heavy covers of old blues tunes, start writing your own tunes. lead singer electrocutes himself (okay, maybe not that part)

krib
#161 posted by
krib
on Mar 27, 2012

yes, I'm aware mighty mighty bosstones are from the 90s, but I didn't want to use another 80s example (of the two-tone movement)

leigheldridge
#162 posted by
leigheldridge
on Mar 27, 2012

English needs a gender neutral singular pronoun. "They" is slowly gaining acceptance in that role, but it's unfortunate that we don't have one. </linguist rant>

krib
#163 posted by
krib
on Mar 27, 2012

of course, not many bands produced the likes of Jeff Beck, Eric Claption and Jimmy Page...

Leigh, could be worse, we could've inherited the 3 genders of German

 

 

okay, time to head out. Beavers tonight

Benoit from Ottawa
#164 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Mar 27, 2012

grub, 79, yeah, nihil novem sub sole, nothing new under the sun.

Which of course is untrue. 180 beat per minute songs weren't done before, except perhaps by Atlanteans.

Ahh, the difficulties of philosophising...

Just back from cyclng in the real world. Got to read.

flagpole music
#165 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

#149 - one of the best things I've learned from participation in this blog is to not dismiss music from any genre. Electronica is not my fav for example but I've learned to be more patient with it & admire some of the craft, from people like @the Radiohead. & knowing her, I hope that even if Zeus isn't her cup of tea she'll hear people like say what they do enjoy about it.My mind & my ears have definitely been opened from the variety of what I hear on here. I'm a lot more patient with waiting to hear a song than even looking at the genre or an artist I've maybe dismissed previously & finding something of theirs I love.I believe, as many are saying, that bands like Zeus cannot escape the music that was in their ears growning up. I actually admire that they're pretty honest about that-the intentional embrace of trying to put a new voice on a classic sound rather than be defensive or in denial.I appreciate all of us being able to have a difference of opinion in a grown-up fashion. I'd always rather have a discussion than an arguement. (there's no winning just sharing your thoughts)I like that statement. At the end of the day for me there are 2 music genres. stuff i like & stuff I don't. 

flagpole music
#166 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

& on a happier note, I can hear Lisa clearly again!!!! what a day to have it cut out , when she's being so erudite.

124th Street Beat
#167 posted by
124th Street Beat
on Mar 27, 2012

@ubermiguel/krib

I remember when EMO starting really picking up steam and maybe hadn't really been labelled yet - it would drive me nuts 'cause people would refer to the bands playing it as "punk"- it would pretty much push me to the point on yelling at the radio " THIS IS NOT PUNK! PUNKS DON'T SING ABOUT GIRLS AND LOVE LOST!"

I have been listening to a lot of NOFX lately though, who I dismissed when they first started, but I came around and really love their mix of irreverence and social justice. I was complaining to my husband though the other day that you know punk rock is in trouble when NOFX is the standard bearer for punk these days (with Rancid and Dropkick Murphies)

leigheldridge
#168 posted by
leigheldridge
on Mar 27, 2012

@krib look up Greek noun declensions sometime. I had to try to learn that once. Not fun. (Ok, kinda fun).

Lisa Christiansen
#169 posted by
Lisa Christiansen
on Mar 27, 2012

@flagpole - and other days, what do I sound like?

krib
#170 posted by
krib
on Mar 27, 2012

leigh, sounds painful.

124th, I don't even know what EMO is as a genre of music.

okay fun fun fun but I have to run

TTFN

flagpole music
#171 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

also, Lisa - Rick SPringfield you said your kid liked? He was my first 'allowed to drive myself to a concert with a friend' concert.  1982 maybe?  Wings Stadium. Kalamazoo Michigan.  Sparks was the opening. Living in Oz tour.  geez - if i stil had a souvenier i'd ship it to your kid:)

& other days you probably sound erudite too but mostly I'd say funny. 

124th Street Beat
#172 posted by
124th Street Beat
on Mar 27, 2012

@krib

count your blessings you missed it. 

garfielduk
#173 posted by
garfielduk
on Mar 27, 2012

Isn't Emo music to cut your wrists to?

Benoit from Ottawa
#174 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Mar 27, 2012

Guys, coming back on THE argument, the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, etc., all started out doing renditions of others' songs. Covers.  Then they started writing, often "inspiredly"; imitatively; they each got better at it; and eventually, they wrote some great songs as they grew into their art. Although some were clunkers (I Dig a Pony).

I think The RadioHead is mistaken about the attitude taken by bands; they're not trying to be like others and saying look how great we are; that simply doesn't ring true with me. They are trying, and often otherrs analyse their music more than they do themselves.

And indeed, a lot of "our" bands have innovated; Said the Whale in their songs often being quite novel in tuneage; Final Fantasy (I forget his real name) doesn't imitate a lot; Ohbijou go for their own sound; Chad Vangaalen, etc.

(Yes, I know TeheRadioHead has gone home.)

ubermiguel
#175 posted by
ubermiguel
on Mar 27, 2012

@ garf;

I think that's the Emo Goth sub-genre.  I tried to look up the differences between punk, goth, emo, etc online, now I'm just more confused.  Back to the two-genre model.

flagpole music
#176 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

***off topic warning (but i've mostly been good today)

according to the AV cluv, Die Antwood are playing Lolla this year. I have never been sooooooo glad I don't have to worry about booking their hotels rooms.

Benoit from Ottawa
#177 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Mar 27, 2012

162: how about using only "his" or "hers" indifferently, in random alternation?

"When a person wants to use his head to pound in nails, he should..."

OR, alternately: "When a person wants to use her head to pound in nails, she should..."

(I could have reversed the examples.)

Benoit from Ottawa
#178 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Mar 27, 2012

177, sorry, that's his or her.

Benoit from Ottawa
#179 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Mar 27, 2012

Sorry krib, I shoulda coulda oughta've read your 160 before writing my 177.

fresh ginger
#180 posted by
fresh ginger
on Mar 27, 2012

wow, i didn't even know emo was a music genre, i thought it was a fashion statement. why I didn't figure out that there was a musical genre to accompany the outifits, i have no idea.

124th Street Beat
#181 posted by
124th Street Beat
on Mar 27, 2012

@ubermiguel-

I guess I should say 90's emo? It is a confusing world of genres out there! Wikipedia tells me emo started in the 80's but I always have thought of emo as the cheesy 'punk' that really emerged in the 90's where the song's were like top 40's love ballads put to electric guitar.

ubermiguel
#182 posted by
ubermiguel
on Mar 27, 2012

@ Benoit;

That's the old guild or master-apprentice model.  Gotta learn how the masters did it before you can create your own thing.

And I Dig a Pony a clunker?!  But then a Beatles clunker is still better than most bands best song.

flagpole music
#183 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

@124th - I know they're not real hard core but the punk part of my brain does enjoy Pack A.D. & I don't consider them emo really at all.  Maya's too effing funny for that.

fresh ginger
#184 posted by
fresh ginger
on Mar 27, 2012

just for a minute I thought we were sliding towards a hiphop/funk set. Nope, back to guitars.

zoot aloors
#185 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

*picturing Die Antwoord's hotel room*

*shudders*

garfielduk
#186 posted by
garfielduk
on Mar 27, 2012

Off topic, but interesting Dandelion Chocolate

The continued evolution of the bean-to-bar and new American chocolate movements seems to have spawned bars that range from tasty to grainy. A growing outfit out of the Bay Area has quickly gained a loyal following for their products, which are made with a purist philosophy that has yielded delightful flavor and texture. Dandelion Chocolate was founded by Cameron Ring and Todd Masonis as a venture out of their garage, selling their goods at the now defunct underground food markets of San Francisco. "We had to start by buying machines and we bought a few bags of beans and just started roasting them up," says Masonis about their humble origins. "We sort of got lucky that our first couple of batches were really good."



124th Street Beat
#187 posted by
124th Street Beat
on Mar 27, 2012

@flagpole

Totally agree, and anyone who rips on guitar like those ladies gets a lot of respect from my punk lobe. 

leigheldridge
#188 posted by
leigheldridge
on Mar 27, 2012

@Benoit [174]: yup, agree completely! 

flagpole music
#189 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

@zoot - see?  things people don't think about.  We used to handle Marley's boys a lot until the hotel went completely non-smoking. the real trick was getting the front desk to not check people with kids in on the same floor.  On the other hand, I have all kinds of useful advice about how to conceal the smell from 'funny' cigarettes. I should put that on my resume. 

flagpole music
#190 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

@124th - they tore it up here at the Echo with BROOD. I stood with Casey & it was really funny to sorta watch him appreciate them.  he was an obvious fan & was out in middle of the audience listening with the rest of us & could easily have been elsewhere in the venue.

i'll go see them again in a heartbeat. Plus they've got a little Suzi Quatro vibe going, which my Detroit heart loves

124th Street Beat
#191 posted by
124th Street Beat
on Mar 27, 2012

I really like this song and it is very new wave (new order style). but I think that is one of the reasons I like it. just thought I would throw another genre out there.

zoot aloors
#192 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

Marley's funny cigarettes! lol That's the stuff they don't teach you in college!

Benoit from Ottawa
#193 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Mar 27, 2012

Dear Uber, that is, in what was John Lennon's opinion, the worst song he'd ever written. I don't know when the statement dates from, though.

Their favourite, I learned from liner notes of a volume of The Beatles Anthology -- that triple 2 ceedee set of alternate takes and devleopmental tunes -- that their favourite -- released in complete versdion only on said Anthology -- is You Know My Name, Look Up the Number, done with Brian Jones on the sax and several other people, in 3-4 studios, over a few years. (A shorter version exists on a regular album, and the flip side of a 45, I think).

124th Street Beat
#194 posted by
124th Street Beat
on Mar 27, 2012

@flagpole

I have only seen them once, it was without knowing who they were, about 2009 or 2010, in Whitehorse at a fundraiser for the new humane society up there. No one actually really knew who they were, but everyone was entranced from the first guitar riff. I would like to see them again.

garfielduk
#195 posted by
garfielduk
on Mar 27, 2012

Is a trend setter a red setter with it's paw on the pulse of fashion?

zoot aloors
#196 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

Suzy's been on my bucket list since Happy Days. A glam chick on on bass?Rwar!

fresh ginger
#197 posted by
fresh ginger
on Mar 27, 2012

So Lisa, got any good new slang, you trendsetter?

flagpole music
#198 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

@zoot - if i was a travelling musician, fabric softener sheets would be pretty high on the list of things to pack.  you can leave a couple in a closed vehicle over night & it improves the smell of that situation great.

& keeping one in your suitcase helps with clothes too. & well, if you happened across a tube from a roll of paper towels & had some fabric sheet handy, well that's where the funny smokes come in.

@124 - i had that experience with Susan Tedeschi back in 2000 at Farm Aid. not knowing what I was getting & seeing a great guitarist & vocalist tear it up.  THat's a good topic some day, Lisa. maybe it's been done?  great Canadian women guitarists (i know Tedeschi isn't a Canuck) but I rant about how underrated Melissa McClelland is all the time. it's just that she's standing next to Luke & he's well....Luke on guitar

zoot aloors
#199 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

*feverishly jotting down [#198]*

Shonica
#200 posted by
Shonica
on Mar 27, 2012

Great show Lisa!

I am off to the WECC see JKS and SGJ. Bye for now!

 

zoot aloors
#201 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

Bye Shonica, have a fun night!

flagpole music
#202 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

@zoot. & newspaper. you stuff the newspaper in one end to close it off & then put the fabric sheet in to help.

 

****disclaimer - i myself do not really smoke the funny cigarettes but have nothing against them either. I just. well. I've learned things. also, travelling musicians, according to my pal Stephen both chocolate & porn are bad for raod trips. too messy. you can pass that advice along to Zeus for their tour with Dan Mangan. along with the suggestion about knocking him around with socks filled with flour. see - I brought back on topic?

flagpole music
#203 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

the baking soda fabric sheets are the best. tho, I'm guessing Arm & Hammer would prefer to not to have that as a recommended usage.

124th Street Beat
#204 posted by
124th Street Beat
on Mar 27, 2012

@Lisa

Thanks for the great show today- although I don't always participate in the conversation I really enjoy the philosophical and academic bent your time on R3 often entails. I also love the random definitions that you throw in once in a while. Keep up the great work.

Have a great night all.

zoot aloors
#205 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

That's why it's so perfect! No expects a hippy to smell like dryer sheets! they usually smell more like Mother Nature herself.

flagpole music
#206 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

 have a great night, @124th! 

zoot aloors
#207 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

Peace out 124th Streat Beat, thanks for holding it down in Mad-City.

UATB
#208 posted by
UATB
on Mar 27, 2012

I was a hippy and I smelled like dryer sheets!

zoot aloors
#209 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

@UATB, there's a song lyric right there!

UATB
#210 posted by
UATB
on Mar 27, 2012

straight ahead rock 'n' roll with a touch of psychedelia.....

flagpole music
#211 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

#208 that sounds like the title for a Joni Mitchell bio. she was a particularly clean hippy

zoot aloors
#212 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

I'm thinking, a litlle sitar solo at the top...

zoot aloors
#213 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

Quick! Somebody get Brian Wilson on the phone!

UATB
#214 posted by
UATB
on Mar 27, 2012

...he's resting right now!

UATB
#215 posted by
UATB
on Mar 27, 2012

@ flagpole... I had hair to my ass and was on memory reduction meds but I did not forget to shower....

zoot aloors
#216 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

OK, flaggy, I've gotcha! Did you know that Joni suffers from a rare disease where she claims to pull plasticky fragments out from her skin?

flagpole music
#217 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

@zoot - umm......no......that is well. disturbing i think is the word.

zoot aloors
#218 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

I'd better scoot around for a citation...

UATB
#219 posted by
UATB
on Mar 27, 2012

I just came back to remind the last breathing people that tomorrow is cut off for the Lennon blog...

http://music.cbc.ca/blogs/2012/3/Whatcha-Readin-Questions-about-Lennon-by-Tim-Riley

Peace!

Fast and Bulbous
#220 posted by
Fast and Bulbous
on Mar 27, 2012

Arriving late:

@TRH #39

I think I heard a promo yesterday that said Zeus got some media buzz at SXSW, but by media they must mean Craig, because I followed the SXSW press, and posted a number of SXSW links here as well, and I didn’t see any buzz about Zeus at all.  Zeus isn’t a SXSW kind of band in any event, and the fact that they didn’t get any press may even be a good thing, because they could easily have done worse

I don’t have any problem with bands playing what they want to play, however.  If they want to be essentally a cover band for 60s and 70s music, then they should go for it.  There are lots of classic rocks stations with lots of listeners who want to hear that kind of music as well, but let’s not try to pretend that Zeus is something they aren’t.  They aren’t original, and by that I mean that they’re almost directly copying the sound of a previous era.  They get no critical acclaim.  They got no buzz at SXSW, and clearly very few R3 listeners are interested in them either.  We’re about 40% of the way into their album-of-the-week, and most of the songs on that album have only had about 20 plays.  John K.’s songs were getting over 100 plays per day, and some ended the week over a 1000 plays, but most of Zeus’s album will be lucky to get 50 plays for the week.

Zeus should do what they want to do, and make whatever kind of music they want to make.   The issue here with them is that they’re not a band that’s of much interest to new music fans.  They don’t fit R3’s theme very well, and clearly not very many R3 listeners are into them, and yet they get a strangely large amount of promotion here. 

flagpole music
#221 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

@UATb - did you know that Empire magazine asks movie actors to rate their hairiness of their own arse on a scale of 1-10?  it's part of their standard "How much is a pint of milk" questionnaire

UATB
#222 posted by
UATB
on Mar 27, 2012

mine's a smooth #1....what's yours?

zoot aloors
#223 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/269296 the eerie details of Ms. Mitchells odd medical battle with Morgellen's Disease, if you dare to explore the under-reaches of Science...

flagpole music
#224 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

so much regret i don't know where to start......hairy arse, skin disease - Lisa, I swear I didn't start it. it was those 2 boys.

zoot aloors
#225 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

Mine's a burlap sack #10, proud too!

UATB
#226 posted by
UATB
on Mar 27, 2012

Nasty! ...... I wish Joni all the best!

Fast and Bulbous
#227 posted by
Fast and Bulbous
on Mar 27, 2012

Music news:

Last week Grimes Visions broke an all time points record on the campus charts, previously held by Arcade Fire, and before that The New Pornographers. 

http://canadiancampuschart.com/wordpress/

flagpole music
#228 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

back to music - are you much excited for tomorrow, Ms. C or what?!?!

garfielduk
#229 posted by
garfielduk
on Mar 27, 2012

@Lisa, when is the next "Full Metal Podcast" being released

Benoit from Ottawa
#230 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Mar 27, 2012

Words: the article on Joni Mitchell contains the non-word "corraboration".

zoot aloors
#231 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

@ Fast well that brings us right back to the last great Canadian band thread, so Grimes, eh?

@must have been an aberration, Benoit.

zoot aloors
#232 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

kidding, I'm kidding!

flagpole music
#233 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

ain't modern journalism a wonder?

flagpole music
#235 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

also, I blame any & all of you for this craving for poutine that i won't really be able to cure. I'm going to have to make it ghetto style with shredded cheese.  or just have gravy fries.

Fast and Bulbous
#236 posted by
Fast and Bulbous
on Mar 27, 2012

@ zoot

Last great Canadian band thread?  Maybe I missed that one.  Grimes’ Visions is looking like a good bet for Canadian album of the year, however.  

CDNz1
#237 posted by
CDNz1
on Mar 27, 2012

<--- Had poutine Sunday night before Rococode.

#neenerneener

Fast and Bulbous
#238 posted by
Fast and Bulbous
on Mar 27, 2012

And for something a little different, still life photos of rotting food.

zoot aloors
#239 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

Remember, it's gotta squeak from the cheese curds, or it's not poutine, right Benoit?

@ fast, the great Canadian Band was in reference to a quote early in the show. [#31]Some hype for Zeus, I don't know who the source was.

UATB
#240 posted by
UATB
on Mar 27, 2012

@ Fast #238 ... very tasty site (sight)....

flagpole music
#241 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

@Rusty rockets - yes - it's your better half i'm blaming for sure.  ya big meany.  i can't make cheese curds before night fall.  pretty sure the cheese store in Silver Lake would think I was insane (& be correct).  on the upside, they have a great Scottish cheddar I can get so neenerneenerneener right back at ya.  

& I still have just a smidge of cherry chardonnay jam left also...

flagpole music
#242 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

i could probably find some chihuahua cheese out here. that would be the closest to curds. this stuff squeeks but wouldn't work for poutine

 

https://www.wisconsincheesemart.com/item/brun-uusto-cheese-AA/

Fast and Bulbous
#243 posted by
Fast and Bulbous
on Mar 27, 2012

Keith Haring wall tiles.  Keith Haring is referenced in SNFU’s song I Think Fine Art’s Fine, btw, but I didn’t know much about him. 

Ok, gotta run!  Have a good night all! 

flagpole music
#244 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 27, 2012

see you all later. have a good night!

UATB
#245 posted by
UATB
on Mar 27, 2012

@ Fast #238 ... hey, what's Elvis doing in there.... good night....

UATB
#246 posted by
UATB
on Mar 27, 2012

nice meeting you, flagpole.....

zoot aloors
#247 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

Stills of Rotting Food

*urp!*  *gak!*   *heave*

It ain't no thing.... *wince*

UATB
#248 posted by
UATB
on Mar 27, 2012

...it's art, dude.

zoot aloors
#249 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

yeah, right. culture. Dude photographer's probably a billionaire!

zoot aloors
#250 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

I tells ya, there's no justice in da woild.

UATB
#251 posted by
UATB
on Mar 27, 2012

WTF... you and I again? I should have showered.......see you at the club......

zoot aloors
#252 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 27, 2012

Not if I see you first!!! Go!!!

garfielduk
#253 posted by
garfielduk
on Mar 27, 2012

Bring me a drink back will ya's

UATB
#254 posted by
UATB
on Mar 27, 2012

.... a double single malt... easy ice......

garfielduk
#255 posted by
garfielduk
on Mar 27, 2012

I'd prefer mine single and easy, can she bring a club soda with her

UATB
#256 posted by
UATB
on Mar 27, 2012

hey garfielduk...join us at the Lennon blog.....

mandypants
#257 posted by
mandypants
on Mar 27, 2012

I am trying to be patient with this new site.   Nothing works as expected.  I am ready to give up.  Your big surprise should have been more of a warning and some instruction.  I am lost here.  It is not intuative at all.  I would simply like to hear something from my playlist and there is sooo many issues with that...usually if I want to show a friend an artist I can just search the name and cbc would be first.  Im getting weird hits...not what I would expect.  How dare you take something wondeful away before it works for me (us)

CDNz1
#258 posted by
CDNz1
on Mar 27, 2012

Patience...

I know, I know.

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