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Sub Pop’s history is a complicated, powerful and untethered beast. For better or worse, the record label made Seattle synonymous with grunge (both the music and the flannel-chic fashions) and changed the music industry in fits and starts.

Founded by Bruce Pavitt and Jonathan Poneman in 1986, the label has survived thanks to a combination of excellent taste (Nirvana, Soundgarden, Mudhoney, Sleater-Kinney, Fleet Foxes, Beach House, the Postal Service, the Shins, Flight of the Conchords, the Jesus and Mary Chain, Thee Satisfaction, to name a few), happy accidents and bitter breakups. They also believed Canada was cool before almost anybody else.

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In the '90s, Sub Pop introduced the world to a huge number of Canadian indie bands, important (Constantines, Hot Hot Heat), pivotal (Eric’s Trip, Handsome Furs) and somewhat forgettable (Elevator to Hell). Twenty-five years later, the mostly indie label (it’s partially owned by Warner Bros. Records) continues to beat the odds, surviving — if not thriving — while majors everywhere scramble to cut costs, keep a lucrative roster and churn out the hits.

CBC Music celebrates Sub Pop’s quarter-century (and they will, too, with their Silver Jubilee, an epic, free, outdoor gig in Seattle July 13) by digging into the label’s archives, choosing the best, weirdest and most awesome press photos and album art. 

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hedgeway
#1 posted by
hedgeway
on Jul 10, 2013

Too many awesome bands on Sup Pop to pick one. If I had a gun to my head I'd probably say Wolf parade though. HM to CVG.

CDNz1
#2 posted by
CDNz1
on Jul 10, 2013

Good Morning! Five Alarm Funk are a blast!

tea&cartography
#3 posted by
tea&cartography
on Jul 10, 2013

4 way tie between constantines, erics trip, cvg, and hardship post

No Longer Lurking
#4 posted by
No Longer Lurking
on Jul 10, 2013

Morning people of the blog!  Personally I'd have to go with either Wolf Parade or Constantines.

garfielduk
#5 posted by
garfielduk
on Jul 10, 2013

Good Morning Canadians

Good Afternoon NLL

No Longer Lurking
#6 posted by
No Longer Lurking
on Jul 10, 2013

Afternoon GarfieldUK - How are things in the sunny North?

KPMG
#7 posted by
KPMG
on Jul 10, 2013

Favorite/best Canadian act to record on Sub Pop has to be Wolf Parade, hands down. "Apologies to the Queen Mary" was a mash-up of absolutely everything that sounds good about indie-rock, while "At Mount Zoomer" was such a giant leap forward that it still sounds progressive musically today. Kudos to Sub Pop for giving them creative freedom, and lets hope they get back together at one point and bless us with more of their jams.

garfielduk
#8 posted by
garfielduk
on Jul 10, 2013

@NLL #6, They are very nice her now that our historians remembered what that glowing thing in the sky is.  How is it in Brummagem?

hedgeway
#9 posted by
hedgeway
on Jul 10, 2013

7 - Yeah, I'd easily place Apologies in my top 10 albums ever,

No Longer Lurking
#10 posted by
No Longer Lurking
on Jul 10, 2013

@GarfieldUK - Dull, and the weather is not much better now that the clouds have rolled in.

marie_curious
#11 posted by
marie_curious
on Jul 10, 2013

Two Brits are on the blog at the same time. In the UK, isn't that the same thing as having sex?

No Longer Lurking
#12 posted by
No Longer Lurking
on Jul 10, 2013

@MC - If you think that's like having sex then you're doing it wrong.

Old Abe
#13 posted by
Old Abe
on Jul 10, 2013

Hey!

Fav CanCon - METZ - Constantines - Wolf Parade

Non CanCon - Mudhoney - TAD - Nirvana

MSteve
#14 posted by
MSteve
on Jul 10, 2013

I thought british sex involved tea and crumpets.... or was that strumpets?

Shonica
#15 posted by
Shonica
on Jul 10, 2013
Good morning and Happy First day of WFF2013!
garfielduk
#16 posted by
garfielduk
on Jul 10, 2013

@MC #11, Sex are what posh people get potatoes in.

garfielduk
#17 posted by
garfielduk
on Jul 10, 2013

If Ro Cemm joined the conversation could we officially say that the British invasion has begun?

marie_curious
#18 posted by
marie_curious
on Jul 10, 2013

I, for one, -welcome- our new British overlords!

stevierayk
#19 posted by
stevierayk
on Jul 10, 2013

Fav All Time – Soundgarden

Fav Canucks – I’ll go with the Cons (hometown boys)

 

After looking at the Simpsons Wiki the other day, I'm pretty certain in the distant future the Simpson universe will be as revered as the whole Tolkien/Middle Earth dealio.

 

Old Abe
#20 posted by
Old Abe
on Jul 10, 2013

#19 - Oh yeah, Soundgarden! SOUNDGARDEN!

stevierayk
#21 posted by
stevierayk
on Jul 10, 2013

@old Abe - The greatest of all the grunge bands. 

tea&cartography
#22 posted by
tea&cartography
on Jul 10, 2013

raw corn on the cob is delicious.

marie_curious
#23 posted by
marie_curious
on Jul 10, 2013

@SRK [19]: Don't say that. If in 30 years I have to suffer through a decade of live-action Simpsons epic serial films, I would rather be dead.

stevierayk
#24 posted by
stevierayk
on Jul 10, 2013

@M_C - with Jim Belushi as Homer. I just died a little inside as I typed that.

Raina Douris
#25 posted by
Raina Douris
on Jul 10, 2013

Good morning blog!

garfielduk
#26 posted by
garfielduk
on Jul 10, 2013

Good Morning Raina

marie_curious
#27 posted by
marie_curious
on Jul 10, 2013

@srk [24]: ... *shudder*

stevierayk
#28 posted by
stevierayk
on Jul 10, 2013

Book II Chapter I - So you don't like the ol'time bikes?

No Longer Lurking
#29 posted by
No Longer Lurking
on Jul 10, 2013

If you want to see what a live action Simpsons might look like - http://gprime.net/video.php/therealsimpsons

marie_curious
#30 posted by
marie_curious
on Jul 10, 2013

I was listening to Toronto's "Alternative" rock radio station (Edge 102.1) on the weekend, and I noticed they played a number of Hollerado, Japandroids, Mother Mother and City and Colour tunes in regular rotation, but they were all from at least two years ago. It was weird, like a blast from the past. They also play a lot of 90's music, like Nirvana and Weezer, that they've played everyday for the past 20 years. Why aren't they ever playing -new- music?

Benoit from Ottawa
#31 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Jul 10, 2013

marie_curious, without wanting to be impertinent, that would be a very good question to email them.

Benoit from Ottawa
#32 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Jul 10, 2013

Oh, right, manners, Good morning everybodeeee!

stevierayk
#33 posted by
stevierayk
on Jul 10, 2013

The Edge is death to me. I can't stand that station and their 20 song playlist.

tea&cartography
#34 posted by
tea&cartography
on Jul 10, 2013

the edge was on at the laundromat on the weekend.

i was wondering the same thing. i haven't actively listened to pop radio in years, why do i still know most of the songs?!

stevierayk
#35 posted by
stevierayk
on Jul 10, 2013

@M_C - have you heard the band Pylon? Not the Pylons but Pylon. Great band

stevierayk
#36 posted by
stevierayk
on Jul 10, 2013

The motto at the edge is 'Safety First'. Playing new music is dangerous.

CDNz1
#38 posted by
CDNz1
on Jul 10, 2013

That's why we're here, we love danger.

Benoit from Ottawa
#39 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Jul 10, 2013

(My own sentence shouldn't have been included in the link thinggie.)

stevierayk
#40 posted by
stevierayk
on Jul 10, 2013

 

Speaking of odd stations – last night I watched the last ½ hour of the AUX video chart

 

5. Kaos – hated it

4. Raine Maide (whatever) – hated it

3. Avette Bros. – didn’t strike me as good or bad

2. Airplane Boys - ??? like some sort of Trance Dub stuff

1. Tegan and Sara – I actually liked, OK, didn't hate it as much as the previous four

 

stevierayk
#41 posted by
stevierayk
on Jul 10, 2013

I guess my point is - who picks these lists?

stevierayk
#42 posted by
stevierayk
on Jul 10, 2013

Miss. Patchman? - Wocka Wocka Wocka

hedgeway
#43 posted by
hedgeway
on Jul 10, 2013

41 - Same as the CBC music top 100. Random draw from a hat.

StephRamsahai
#44 posted by
StephRamsahai
on Jul 10, 2013

Good morning!

My favourite Sub Pop bands are Chixdiggit and Wolf Parade. I miss Wolf Parade. :(

laurenelizabeth
#45 posted by
laurenelizabeth
on Jul 10, 2013

25 years of service: a paper weight? Blech. At my office after 25 years you get a 1 week trip all expenses paid anywhere in North America (except Alaska or Hawaii)

tea&cartography
#46 posted by
tea&cartography
on Jul 10, 2013

@steph

are you coming to home county or has the new job tied you down?

loweeda
#47 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

Hello there.

Big Chad van Gaalen fan right here, and a big fan of the new METZ record.  That's my SubPop cred, I guess.

hotpatch
#48 posted by
hotpatch
on Jul 10, 2013

Arugula amigos!

Old Abe
#49 posted by
Old Abe
on Jul 10, 2013

@SRK - #40 - The T&S tune, was it the "Fool For Love" song?  If so, I have not minded that one as much either.

stevierayk
#50 posted by
stevierayk
on Jul 10, 2013

@hedgeway - of course. 

stevierayk
#51 posted by
stevierayk
on Jul 10, 2013

@Abe - not sure, it was a well crafted, hooky pop song. Good for them I say.

 

 

No Longer Lurking
#52 posted by
No Longer Lurking
on Jul 10, 2013

@laurenelizabeth re #45 - After 25 years in my company you get an extended stay at the funny farm, and god dammit, you'd need it.

Raina Douris
#53 posted by
Raina Douris
on Jul 10, 2013

At my last office, I'm pretty sure the 25-year gift was a bag of golf clubs or something. 

WHERE do YOU work, @laurenelizabeth?!

AudioBlood
#54 posted by
AudioBlood
on Jul 10, 2013

@CDNz1 #2- Agreed such a fun and great band! Gotta LOVE Soundgarden too!

tea&cartography
#55 posted by
tea&cartography
on Jul 10, 2013

after 25 yrs you get lunch out at the local diner with the owner, and a certificate, printed on regular old 8.5x11 printer paper.

hotpatch
#56 posted by
hotpatch
on Jul 10, 2013

i'm a Wolf Parade advocate and Spencer Krug with his Moon Face project was T O T A L L Y    A W E S O M E   T O O ! !

JonDixon
#57 posted by
JonDixon
on Jul 10, 2013

25 years here, you get to pick what you want for a gift, up to 10 grand I think?  It supposed to be something you wouldn't normally buy for yourself and fam.

loweeda
#58 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

And oh ya, I love Soundgarden. Soundgarden was the only one of the "big 3" grunge bands (ie. Pearl Jam, Nirvana, SG) that I ever saw live.  The venue had really crappy sound, but it was still great to see them.

tea&cartography
#59 posted by
tea&cartography
on Jul 10, 2013

@jon

are you guys hiring?

hedgeway
#60 posted by
hedgeway
on Jul 10, 2013

My company hasn't even been around for 25 years. I guess the 25 year gift is a mystery.

laurenelizabeth
#61 posted by
laurenelizabeth
on Jul 10, 2013

Raina: I work for a small accounting firm (27 employees) in Fredericton.

loweeda
#62 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

After 25 years at this place, I think you get a pin. After 10 years you get a pin, and then a pin every 5 years after that, so you end up with a bunch of pins.  They like pins around here, I guess.

StephRamsahai
#63 posted by
StephRamsahai
on Jul 10, 2013

@teaandcartography - Is Home County this weekend? If so, probably not. My life is kinda crazy these days. I'm bummed but I need to find a real job. Haha.

JonDixon
#64 posted by
JonDixon
on Jul 10, 2013

@T&C possibly, but certainly not in the shwa.  GIS would likely be in Edmonton, Calgary or Vancouver.  Possibly S'Toon or the city that rhymes with fun as well.

JonDixon
#65 posted by
JonDixon
on Jul 10, 2013

We get the option of a pinky ring, a tie pin or a necklace pendant at 5 years, then every 5 years after that they put a diamond in it, until 20 I believe.

hotpatch
#66 posted by
hotpatch
on Jul 10, 2013

JonDixon, 57, you mean like an inflatable sex robot?

(... ahh not for me of course, i would pick luggage or fishing gear something like that, just curious about the flexibility built into your company plan)

tea&cartography
#67 posted by
tea&cartography
on Jul 10, 2013

@steph

the following one.

@jon

I shall see how this meeting at western U goes next weekend.

I may need a career change from the papermap world.

stevierayk
#68 posted by
stevierayk
on Jul 10, 2013

After 25 years we get fired

JonDixon
#69 posted by
JonDixon
on Jul 10, 2013

@hotpatch well, its kind of an informal plan.  Basically, by 25 years in you know all the other senior folks fairly well and some of them are in positions to approve it.  So, I suppose in theory you could get yourself an inflatable sex robot, but the other senior folks would have to approve and agree to it.

Then you might have to share.

StephRamsahai
#70 posted by
StephRamsahai
on Jul 10, 2013

@teaandcartography - Nice. Well, I might try but we'll see.

flannel tom
#71 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

Favourite Canadian Sub Pop acts: CVG! & Chixdiggit (although I don't think of them as a sub pop band - classic self titled album released on sub pop, but I think of them more as an Honest Don's/Fat Wreck Chords band)

Favourite all timer: Probably, obviously Nirvana. But there's a lot of other greats. In the past couple years Fleet Foxes and now Father John Misty have really been favourites of mine.

hotpatch
#72 posted by
hotpatch
on Jul 10, 2013

t&c, Irina and i are driving up north the weekend of 19-21 and i'm trying to get her to make a detour to HC. Ranger is traveling with us so one detail i need to check into is if i can bring Ranger to HC with us. Do you remember seeing dogs at HC last year?

flannel tom
#73 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

Here's one ting I do not and have not ever got: the insane amount of Wolf Parade love. People (music heads) freak out about them like they're the second coming of Christ.

loweeda
#74 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

hotpatch: I'm pretty sure Home Country is a dog-friendly festival, but don't quote me on it.

flannel tom
#75 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

EXCEPT Alaska or Hawaii?  Way to cheap out jerkfaces.

flannel tom
#76 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

Let's put it this way: if I ever happen to end up working at the same place for 25 years in a row.... they better send me to Alaska.

I cannot fathom 25 years at the same job. I have been working at the place I'm at now for about 2 - 2.5 yrs... I think that's the longest for me so far....

tea&cartography
#77 posted by
tea&cartography
on Jul 10, 2013

non-contiguous states.

lonely fuckers they are.

loweeda
#78 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

I know, Tom, I feel the same way about job longevity. I think it used to be something to strive for, but now that thought just fills me with horror. 

hotpatch
#79 posted by
hotpatch
on Jul 10, 2013

loweeda, i hope so, i need some things to fall into place if we're going to make it to London

flannel tom
#80 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

My mom once told me "my (her) generation lived to work where my generation works to live".... job longevity isn't important to most of my generation i don't think. We'll go wherever looks good rather than stick it out for some weird sense of loyalty.

stevierayk
#81 posted by
stevierayk
on Jul 10, 2013

 

I take back my Cons and want to replace them with CVG. I thought CVG was so weird and different until I played it for my sister in law and she gives me ‘sounds like early Nirvana’. Son-of-a-bitch! It does remind me of Nirvana (who are just the Pixies but not as good)

stevierayk
#82 posted by
stevierayk
on Jul 10, 2013

Same place 17 years and counting.

hotpatch
#83 posted by
hotpatch
on Jul 10, 2013

i don't need to worry about leaviing my job cause there's a chain under my desk that's bolted to the floor

loweeda
#84 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

total agreement re 80. "Work to Live" sounds like the right perspective to me.

flannel tom
#85 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

*she told me that during one of my unemployed life crisis spells where I quit my job because it sucked my soul too much.... but I didn't have a backup plan..... and then was (f)unemployed for a while.

flannel tom
#86 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

@stevie - I think CVG should win the Polaris Prize every year.

stevierayk
#87 posted by
stevierayk
on Jul 10, 2013

@FT - I can get behind that. He is my fav. R3 artist by far

Old Abe
#88 posted by
Old Abe
on Jul 10, 2013

Sounds like I need to hear more CVG?

loweeda
#89 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

I also think CVG should win the Polaris Prize!  I mean, come on, who's making more creative, unique, innovative music than that guy? All by himself!  He totally deserves the prize and the money that goes with it.

Did everyone see the picture Dave Bidini just posted on Twitter of his family with Geddy Lee?  Dave Bidini's sons!  They look like good kids.

Chopz87
#90 posted by
Chopz87
on Jul 10, 2013

Hola Blog!

flannel tom
#91 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

@old abe - I'm listening to him right now! (his cbc music page) I have most of his discography at home... i flip flop between what my fave record of his is. I'll just say Skelliconnection.

He is also the best animator ever.

And he skateboards.

hedgeway
#92 posted by
hedgeway
on Jul 10, 2013

Oh yes... his music doesn't even touch on how insanely awesome his music videos are.

Chopz87
#93 posted by
Chopz87
on Jul 10, 2013

Who's CVG?

Benoit from Ottawa
#94 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Jul 10, 2013

88: Chad Vangaalen has lately been putting out (dance) stuff as Daphni, and it's been much less well-received here than the stuff under his own name.

flannel tom
#95 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

my favourite (this changes a lot based on day, mood and the next CVG song I hear) song of Chad Van Gaalen is City of Electric Light off of Soft Airplane.

It's soooo good. No video for it unfortunately.

flannel tom
#96 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

@BfO - nope, Daphni os Dan Snaith aka Caribou.

CVG releases stuff under the Black Mold name.

flannel tom
#97 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

CHOPZ!!!!

Chad Van Gaalen

Old Abe
#98 posted by
Old Abe
on Jul 10, 2013

FYI - Mo Kenny won the Socan Songwriting Prize for "Sucker". ($5K)

Benoit from Ottawa
#99 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Jul 10, 2013

FT, thanks.

hedgeway
#100 posted by
hedgeway
on Jul 10, 2013

I have too many fav CVG songs to name just one.... Burning Photographs, Clinically Dead, Rabid Bits Of Time... all so good.

Chopz87
#101 posted by
Chopz87
on Jul 10, 2013

TOM!!

Oh yes, I enjoy the Van Gaalen

flannel tom
#102 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

...and Black Mold really pushes your boundaries....

loweeda
#103 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

I like Black Mold, too, but I agree, it's even less accessible than Chad's own stuff, which I acknowledge some people may find difficult to get into at first.  Both projects are so worth it, though, in

my

humble

opinion

hedgeway
#104 posted by
hedgeway
on Jul 10, 2013

Another thing about Sub Pop is the the packaging on their vinyl is fantastic. Some of the best I've ever bought.

flannel tom
#105 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

Was Dinosaur Jr a sub pop band?

jdurley
#106 posted by
jdurley
on Jul 10, 2013

uh-oh... hope someone can give Raina a tissue...

tea&cartography
#107 posted by
tea&cartography
on Jul 10, 2013

@ftom

weren't they with merge (at some point or another?)

hedgeway
#108 posted by
hedgeway
on Jul 10, 2013

105 - Their early stuff came out on SST. They're past few albums have come out on Jagjaguwar.

However, you're not totally wrong. J Mascis' solo album came out on Sub Pop in 2011.

Chopz87
#109 posted by
Chopz87
on Jul 10, 2013

@Tom - I don't think so

laurenelizabeth
#110 posted by
laurenelizabeth
on Jul 10, 2013

back from lunch: Tom I totally agree with your mom on the Work to live thing ... as great as my job is I have no desire to be here for 25 years. In an accounting firm, unless you become an accountant you pretty much reach your seniority ceiling in 8 years. I just had my 2 year anniversary in May and since they paid for my education I can leave here in 2 more years having my loan to them 100% written off so I'll likely stay til then.

mcfflyer
#111 posted by
mcfflyer
on Jul 10, 2013

Good morning. 

Anyone having audio problems?  The stream won't load on my iPhone.

Old Abe
#112 posted by
Old Abe
on Jul 10, 2013
stevierayk
#113 posted by
stevierayk
on Jul 10, 2013

CVG - flower gardens is an amazing song.

hedgeway
#114 posted by
hedgeway
on Jul 10, 2013
Benoit from Ottawa
#115 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Jul 10, 2013

mcfflyer, it's not the same, but my iTunes feed to iMac tabletop hasn't done any weird stuff.

mcfflyer
#116 posted by
mcfflyer
on Jul 10, 2013

Thanks, Benoit.  I haven't had an audio stream problem in months, and today, the CBC app loads just fine, and when I hit the last button, I get that spinning wheel that just spins and spins and spins . . .

flannel tom
#117 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

My personal favourite Chad Van Gaalen video - Molten Light

Old Abe
#118 posted by
Old Abe
on Jul 10, 2013

Anyone know who this is?  Russian Futurists?

flannel tom
#119 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

@lauren - yeah, I hear you I guess. I am thinking more of how, I work in order to pay for trips and things I want to do as opposed to letting my work define me. In the past I have had no issues wuitting a job to go away for 2 months or what have you. I don't know how that hasn't happened this time around... well, I do, but it's complicated haha.

kirkofdoom
#120 posted by
kirkofdoom
on Jul 10, 2013

Chad VanGaalen is amazing.

I have no loyalty to my current job (but my boss knows I'm only here until I get something in radio).

I don't really have any opinions on SubPop. They're pretty good, I guess. Aside from CVG, all my favourite SubPop bands are American; Death Cab, Modest Mouse, Mogwai, The Shins...

I'm hit & miss on Wolf Parade. I love Krug's Sunset Rubdown and all his projects, but I've never liked Boechner's Handsome Furs or anything, for some reason.

Am I caught up?

Old Abe
#121 posted by
Old Abe
on Jul 10, 2013

#118 - Never mind, found it.

SamaraS
#122 posted by
SamaraS
on Jul 10, 2013

@OldAbe I was in the other room thinking it could have been RF and walked in to check but missed the play listing....

SamaraS
#123 posted by
SamaraS
on Jul 10, 2013

@OldAbe -and who is it?

Benoit from Ottawa
#124 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Jul 10, 2013

mcffl, I did have a problem yesterday (endless spinning wheel while the program supposedly "refreshed the stations" or something), went off iTunes, put it back up, same thing, slammed it off, waited a minute, put it on again, and it worked.

I'm sure there's a moral in there somewhere...

loweeda
#125 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

The thing I love about my job is that they gave me the time to fuck off to an entirely different province for a year.  Granted, I had to spend my own money and I could only do it because I was getting a Masters, but that's still pretty great.  My dream is a job that gives me sabbaticals every few years, and if I play my cards right I may have one. tba on that.

flannel tom
#126 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

@kirk - Oh man, I forgot about Modest Mouse. I sure did like them a lot for a while. Still do like them, I just mean, there was a time and place where they were sort of the thing.

Old Abe
#127 posted by
Old Abe
on Jul 10, 2013

@Samara - It was Russian Futurists new one. Feat. one of the guys from Junior Boys.

flannel tom
#128 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

Professor Loweeda?

hedgeway
#129 posted by
hedgeway
on Jul 10, 2013

Now I have to be an asshole and say that Modest Mouse have never released anything on Sub Pop.

Although Isaac Brock used to recruit bands for Sub Pop or something like that. I believe he's the one that signed Wolf Parade.

Lana Gay
#130 posted by
Lana Gay
on Jul 10, 2013

I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS SHOW!It was basically my teenage dream to play Canadian SubPop bands on the radio.

flannel tom
#131 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

@hedgeway - J Mascis is the most awkward dude ever, god love him.

flannel tom
#132 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

@hedgeway - asshole!!!! hahah, no, thanks for pointing that out!

loweeda
#133 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

ft:  Librarian Loweeda, which is kind of the same, but (hopefully) with fewer soul-destroying committee meetings.

kirkofdoom
#134 posted by
kirkofdoom
on Jul 10, 2013

I just glanced at the "List of artists who have worked with Sub Pop" wiki page and Modest Mouse was there

*shrug*

 

But, yeah, I haven't really actively thought about them in a while. The last proper album was, what, six years ago? 

flannel tom
#135 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

Seeing Dinosaur Jr was a great moment for me. Although the show iteself wasn't that memorable, it was a lot of hair, a lot of guitar. That's what I paid for and I got it.

loweeda
#136 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

I'm happy that we're all here to share in Lana's dream show with her.

stevierayk
#137 posted by
stevierayk
on Jul 10, 2013

Shit, there goes another pair of glasses. 2nd pair this week.

nvp
#138 posted by
nvp
on Jul 10, 2013

 

ooh! got my coffee and back in time for the Lana intro!

i have a "cub pop" sticker made to look like the sub pop logo.

 

flannel tom
#139 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

@srk - thrashing to japanese speed core too hard?

hedgeway
#140 posted by
hedgeway
on Jul 10, 2013

@kirk - Ahhh okay. Even though they haven't released anything on the label I guess they have "worked with" them. Not like there isn't a relation there.

smalliebigs
#141 posted by
smalliebigs
on Jul 10, 2013

@Lana: glad you're living out your teenage dream. 

Clearly, a younger me didn't dream about doing whatever it is I do so I'm just going to live vicariously through others for the time being. 

stevierayk
#142 posted by
stevierayk
on Jul 10, 2013

@Ft - actually CanADIAN BAND RECORDED in Japan

As you can see I need my glasses.

kirkofdoom
#143 posted by
kirkofdoom
on Jul 10, 2013

hedgeway,

Modest Mouse also has a page on SubPop, but maybe they're just reissues or whatever? 

mcfflyer
#144 posted by
mcfflyer
on Jul 10, 2013

@Benoit - Ehh, I even tried powering off my iPhone.  No luck.  May not be able to listen today.  :(

Benoit from Ottawa
#145 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Jul 10, 2013

144, crap!

Michael Wynn, see 144, 116, 111.

loweeda
#146 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

Michael Wynn, blog god. We call upon Him in our distress.

Benoit from Ottawa
#147 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Jul 10, 2013

loweeda, correct!

SamaraS
#148 posted by
SamaraS
on Jul 10, 2013

@OldAbe #127 Thanks :)

flannel tom
#149 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

completely unrelated: I hurt my ankle at hockey last night but it feels absolutely normal and fine today. c'est une miracle!

stevierayk
#150 posted by
stevierayk
on Jul 10, 2013

@FT - Razor

I lived with them 20 years ago and oddly enough, just reunited with them through the kramdens new bass player.

mcfflyer
#151 posted by
mcfflyer
on Jul 10, 2013

@Benoit and Michael Wynn - I've been able to connect through the iPhone, which has always been very reliable, but it'll connect for maybe 15 seconds to a minute, then lose the audio, then come back, lose it, and so on.  Normally, I log in in the morning, and it streams all day.

loweeda
#152 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

Flannel tom: Maybe you gained some super-powers overnight.  Try flying.

Or, on second thot, maybe don't.

flannel tom
#153 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

@loweeda - I"ll be right back.........

garfielduk
#154 posted by
garfielduk
on Jul 10, 2013

@Loweeda #152, The secret of human flight is throwing yourself at the ground and missing.  It's the missing part that causes the most trouble.

flannel tom
#155 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

re: #95 - ....And then I hear Burn To Ash and I'm all like, "oh yeah".

tea&cartography
#156 posted by
tea&cartography
on Jul 10, 2013

@garf

I caught your douglas adams reference sir.

Michael Wynn
#157 posted by
Michael Wynn
on Jul 10, 2013

@lee how are you connecting, cbc music iphone app or the mobile web site?

loweeda
#158 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

Hi, God.

flannel tom
#159 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

Or Red Hot Drops for that matter.

Can we have a national CVG day please?

stevierayk
#160 posted by
stevierayk
on Jul 10, 2013

wynnsie is more a Mother Nature type

tea&cartography
#161 posted by
tea&cartography
on Jul 10, 2013

@loweeda

one more question from yesterday that I forgot:

I assume there will be papers to write in library school. Lots of them. I went to Uni for biology, and then college for mapping. Paper writing is not a strong suit of mine.

Is it possible to fake it till you make it with a bunch of key terms or should I actually learn how to write a paper and back up my own ideas?

TheRadioHead
#162 posted by
TheRadioHead
on Jul 10, 2013
Man I love Basia Bulat, I re listen to her often. When we were at the Musical instrument Museum in Phoenix, she was the video example they used for the Autoharp. I can't add anything to the Subpop conversation, most of that falls into my dead zone of my childbearing andChildrearing years.
loweeda
#163 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

t&c:  there are a lot of papers in the MLIS program, but most are not that long (ie. in the 5-8 page range, maybe maxing out at about 12). You're not going to be writing 20-pagers, is what I'm saying here.

I come from a Humanities background, though, so I'm all over writing papers, and I think it's a very (VERY) important skill to be able to organize your thoughts and articulate them on paper.  So I may be biased, but yes - I think you should actually learn how to do that, if you don't think you know :)

There are lots of workshops offered through the GRC (Graduate Resource Centre) at Western about writing papers at the graduate level, different citation styles, doing research, etc. so there are lots of resources available to help you if you need it.  

 

flannel tom
#164 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

I wanted to say Eric's Trip for the sub pop thing but they're form Moncton and Moncton is gross.

JonDixon
#165 posted by
JonDixon
on Jul 10, 2013

I hate writing papers.  I also used to really hate it when we would write our work reports (an engineering report from our co-op term) and then english department people who marked them would give us shitty marks because they didn't like our sentence flow.

You know what's hard to do?  Get an egnlish major interested in the pavement overlay test results I'm writing my work report about.

loweeda
#166 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

Jon Dixon: I'm sorry on behalf of the English majors who marked your papers.  but I probably would have done the same thing, not gonna lie.

Aside:  I always unconsciously spell it "Englilsh" after my favourite Strongbad email, and then I have to go back and correct it.

Lana Gay
#167 posted by
Lana Gay
on Jul 10, 2013

@flanneltom Now, now.

JonDixon
#168 posted by
JonDixon
on Jul 10, 2013

@loweeda I forgive you, but not the rest.  Also, fuck spelling.

Snarf
#169 posted by
Snarf
on Jul 10, 2013

A whole day for SUB POP?! Wooo!

I have a Sub Pop baseball hat that is the only baseball hat in history to look good on me.  It is a miracle.

We went to a craft brew pup in Seattle and Mr.Snarf spotted the founders of Sub Pop at the bar.  He was really star struck.

mcfflyer
#170 posted by
mcfflyer
on Jul 10, 2013

@Michael Wynn - Hi.  Our office internet blocks the CBC Radio3 audio stream, although I can go on and listen to any of the non-radio files, like my favourites or any specific songs.  So I listen through the CBC app on my iPhone. 

This morning, it took forever to connect, then it'd lose the stream, sometimes booting itself out of the app, sometimes not.  Well, the last time I tried, it acted normal and went right to the stream.  Seems steady now.  What'd you do?  Kick the server?  That sometimes works.  Whatever you did, thanks!

loweeda
#171 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

I feel happy to be forgiven by Jon Dixon.

Snarf
#172 posted by
Snarf
on Jul 10, 2013

I am pretty bummed I can't scoot down to Seattle this weekend for that show :( I am supposed to be having a pre-move garage sale and see a friend's band play Khatsalano. And said friend might be staying with us.

Benoit from Ottawa
#173 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Jul 10, 2013

168 "tuck felling", you say? Buck telling?

 

Aaaaaah, you're right, spelling doesn't cunt.

mcfflyer
#174 posted by
mcfflyer
on Jul 10, 2013

@Flannel Tom - I waited until I had my very first "real" lobster in my life back in 1977 until I came to where they were from - the Maritimes.  I had that first "real" lobster in Moncton, so the town is kinda special to me.  :)

(and I hope I'm scoring some points with you with my Maritime knowledge...)

mcfflyer
#175 posted by
mcfflyer
on Jul 10, 2013

@Benoit - thanks for your help in getting Michael Wynn's attention.  Things are pretty solid right now.  How are things in Ottawa?

pjrocksmb
#176 posted by
pjrocksmb
on Jul 10, 2013

who is must see WFF

 

marie_curious
#177 posted by
marie_curious
on Jul 10, 2013

In answer to that blog question I've been ignoring: Chixdiggit, Julie Doiron and Chad VanGaalen.

Snarf
#178 posted by
Snarf
on Jul 10, 2013

I think I need to listen to more Julie Doiron.  She hasn't really registered with me in the past, but when I pay attention I quite like what I hear.

No Longer Lurking
#179 posted by
No Longer Lurking
on Jul 10, 2013

WOLF PARADE!

Snarf
#180 posted by
Snarf
on Jul 10, 2013

Glad I work from home (for one more week) so I can crank the tunes.

TheRadioHead
#181 posted by
TheRadioHead
on Jul 10, 2013
Yup, apologies to the queen Mary is pretty close to perfect. Yup.
marie_curious
#182 posted by
marie_curious
on Jul 10, 2013

@Snarf: re Julie Doiron: She's usually pretty down beat and moody, if you're into that sort of thing. Oh These Walls was the tune that got me hooked.

Lana Gay
#183 posted by
Lana Gay
on Jul 10, 2013

@snarf @mariecurious I always loved Julie's song "No More", it was a bit moody but upbeat.

flannel tom
#184 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

I think Julie has a lot of rockin' stuff in her catafalque, take a dig, there's quuite a lot of good. I also kind of just love julie doiron so there's that.

hedgeway
#185 posted by
hedgeway
on Jul 10, 2013

Julie's music is awesome.

Dem guitar tones.

flannel tom
#186 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

catafalque? what the what...? That was supposed to be catalogue but it got spell checked to that. I don't even... oh man.

I can't spell catalog? what is going on....

Snarf
#187 posted by
Snarf
on Jul 10, 2013

I think I like Julie when her songs are more guitar forward and less when it is primarily moody vocals.  But I haven't listened much or closely.

Lana - that is the best, when a song sounds popy/upbeat but is dark in subject matter.

nvp
#188 posted by
nvp
on Jul 10, 2013

 

i reeeeeally loved that Julie Doiron and The Wrong Guys single.

i guess i need to buy it ..

Snarf
#189 posted by
Snarf
on Jul 10, 2013

listening to No More right now - pretty killer

Benoit from Ottawa
#190 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Jul 10, 2013

catafalque is quite the word. Look it up folks!

 

mcfflyer, welcome, ya just invoke the name of the demigod and there you go. Or rather here he comes. (Demigods seem far more present than full-fledged gods.)

As for Ottawa, hot, moist, but not drowned like Toronto; and Bluesfest, which restarts tonight after stages stayed dark last night.

Weezer's the big name, but there are also Animal Collective and other acts I don't really know.

That's about it. (Oh, of some note to Ottawans, our own Big Dig (it's not called that) has begun: boring a tunnel line for a light rail transit system that'll run through and underneath centretown. Nothing compared to Boston, perhaps. I think ours will be through hard rock. Traffic snarls result.)

tea&cartography
#191 posted by
tea&cartography
on Jul 10, 2013

@benoit

I know the guy manning the drill rig for that.

lots of compound angles.

nvp
#192 posted by
nvp
on Jul 10, 2013

 

tunnels are cool

JonDixon
#193 posted by
JonDixon
on Jul 10, 2013

Is this tunnel being tunneled using a tunnel boring machine (TBM) or the cut and cover method?

Funhog
#194 posted by
Funhog
on Jul 10, 2013

No Longer Lurking (and anyone else) - Here are some pictures of our latest addition.

In

Out

Neko

Neko with Bobo

bonus - Mica

Snarf
#195 posted by
Snarf
on Jul 10, 2013

oh hey T&C (and other mapping types dissatisfied with their job) - not to fuel your wander lust, but there is work in the lower mainland

City of Vancouver

Surrey

But maybe you already told me 'mapping' is not 'GIS' and vice versa

mcfflyer
#196 posted by
mcfflyer
on Jul 10, 2013

Oooh!  My Rights Versus Yours!   The song that introduced me to The New Pornographers.  Back in those early days of R3.  Don't hear it much on R3 any more, and so - thanks, Lana!

Benoit from Ottawa
#197 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Jul 10, 2013

191, makes sense. The terrain's like that.

Benoit from Ottawa
#198 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Jul 10, 2013

JFD, a smaller TBM, I believe. Hold on.

JonDixon
#199 posted by
JonDixon
on Jul 10, 2013

For the record, I like the cut and cover method because it results in more work for someone like me.  Directional drilling is pretty neat though.

Benoit from Ottawa
#200 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Jul 10, 2013

Yeah, JD, not what is properly called a tunnel-boring machine (I recall from a radio interview) but a "road header excavator" -- see a photo in this article, which is pretty informative, and contains a map and a diagram..

Here's the main guts of the project (from that article):

The east tunnel entrance — close to the arts building at the University of Ottawa — is one of three main entrance points for the LRT tunnel. The west entrance is near Lebreton Flats, just below the bit of escarpment at Bronson. Fencing has already been set up in the parking lot where the work is to begin.

There will also be a shaft dug in the parking lot across from Holt Renfrew at Kent Street and Queen Street.



Benoit from Ottawa
#201 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Jul 10, 2013

JD, they are digging clean through centretown. "Cut and cover" would never, ever, ever be approved!

Christine McAvoy
#202 posted by
Christine McAvoy
on Jul 10, 2013

oh HAI everybody!

evensteven
#203 posted by
evensteven
on Jul 10, 2013

HAI from Jersey too!

It's New Comic Day AGAIN!!!

tea&cartography
#204 posted by
tea&cartography
on Jul 10, 2013

@jon

what benoit said.

JonDixon
#205 posted by
JonDixon
on Jul 10, 2013

@BfO you can cut and cover anywhere, just depends on how much money you want to spend on shoring.  With the right shoring you could excavate a deep, deep hole next to a bunch of buildings.

You would just need to:

1) Not care about the volume of complaining that would happen from residents and businesses about traffic disruption

B) Have a really good traffic plan that would let everyone do their thing.

B) is probably not possible.

garfielduk
#206 posted by
garfielduk
on Jul 10, 2013

@Steve, Happy NCBD Sir, is there anything of particular interest this week?

Benoit from Ottawa
#207 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Jul 10, 2013

205: Yeah, like JD said. Wait!, that's you!

Snarf
#208 posted by
Snarf
on Jul 10, 2013

I really like Sub Pop (and Lana).  The music has been top notch today.

tea&cartography
#209 posted by
tea&cartography
on Jul 10, 2013

way too much chicory on that sandwich.

i need to remember that.

JonDixon
#210 posted by
JonDixon
on Jul 10, 2013

Part of the Boston underground system was done by cut and cover, downtown, under some massive arterial road.  I don't remember the circumstances though.

kirkofdoom
#211 posted by
kirkofdoom
on Jul 10, 2013

snarf (and eric, and any other vancouveronian interested),

the khatshalhanoh schedule is up, but it's a really poorly made image that has everything separated by stage and not time.

flannel tom
#212 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

Now here's a band that released Twice Removed on sub pop but had a falling out with them. Hence Murder Records.

Pretty great story.

flannel tom
#213 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

I think sub pop was basically trying to rip them off and there were some hostilities... although I can't remember the details. Perhaps Lananrama can fill us in on the sloan/sub pop dispute?

Snarf
#214 posted by
Snarf
on Jul 10, 2013

kirk - what is up with the quality of that image?

flannel tom
#215 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

here's the website for the ottawa LRT. Good for them, most cities in canada don't have the foresight or political desire to undertake such a forward thinking (read: costly) project.

But it's Ottawa and they fancy.

StephRamsahai
#216 posted by
StephRamsahai
on Jul 10, 2013

It is really hot in this city right now. Hooooooooly smokes!

flannel tom
#217 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013
kirkofdoom
#218 posted by
kirkofdoom
on Jul 10, 2013

snarf,

open it in a new tab and it's... slightly better. I don't think the people who made their website understand the internet. 

hedgeway
#219 posted by
hedgeway
on Jul 10, 2013

@FT - Do you mean Geffen?

I think I may have gotten the Modest Mouse thing wrong earlier (after some research I think they released some 7"s on sub pop). But I'm pretty sure Sloan were on Geffen.

flannel tom
#220 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

@hedgeway - I'm a fuckin' idiot. Yep. Geffen.

flannel tom
#221 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

@kirk, snarf - ooooooooh I like W4th. I like how there's a skateshop district there. where else?

hedgeway
#222 posted by
hedgeway
on Jul 10, 2013

FT - Truro people have to watch out for each other.

nvp
#223 posted by
nvp
on Jul 10, 2013

 

[218] yep that's a little weird.  it's a low res png stored at imageshack.us

but it's all on there, that's cool.  imma be there.

flannel tom
#224 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

@hedgey - they certainly do!!! thanks for getting my back.

I'm just being busy at work and apparently not thinking about things too in depth!

Snarf
#225 posted by
Snarf
on Jul 10, 2013

#221 - I don't understand the question.  Where else is the festival? All the stages are along 4th, 10 blocks of which is closed to traffic for the day.

Khatsalano = Kitsilano

stevierayk
#226 posted by
stevierayk
on Jul 10, 2013

@FT- by the bye, I checked out that link you gave me yesterday. That stuff was great, is he young and white? Cause if he is, it’s hard to believe.

 

mcfflyer
#227 posted by
mcfflyer
on Jul 10, 2013

@JonDixon - When BART was constucted in the late 60s and early 70s in San Francisco, the City's main thoroughfare, Market Street wad excavated using cut and cover - in to levels.  The lower level was the BART trains that had crossed under the bay, and the level above was San Francisco Municipal Railway with their streetcars that terminated at the bay front at the Ferry Building.  Downtown San Francisco was a mess for YEARS.  But since then, they've brought some streetcars back to run on the surface, and so there are now three levels of transit on Market Street.

evensteven
#228 posted by
evensteven
on Jul 10, 2013

@GARF...

JUSTICE LEAGUE #22 should make the news (no spoilers tho)

garfielduk
#229 posted by
garfielduk
on Jul 10, 2013

@Lee #227, I knew about the BART but I have never heard of the Municipal Railway, I'll have to look that up.

mcfflyer
#230 posted by
mcfflyer
on Jul 10, 2013

@Garf - San Francisco Municipal Railway, or MUNI as everyone knows it, is the municipal transit operator in San Francisco, included buses, street cars, and of course, the venerable cable cars that climb halfway to the stars . . .

TheRadioHead
#231 posted by
TheRadioHead
on Jul 10, 2013
It's hard to imagine that it is 8 years to the weekend!!! that I first saw Chad Vangaalen-WFF 2005. He was such a strange man, didn't play facing the audience but faced side stage where his GF was sitting. Loved him at first sight, I did.
JonDixon
#232 posted by
JonDixon
on Jul 10, 2013

@Lee did it result in a net improvement for transit and traffic flow in the core?

flannel tom
#233 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

@snarf - I mean where else in canada would there be a whole block or two where every store is a skate/snow shop.

Snarf
#234 posted by
Snarf
on Jul 10, 2013

flannel tom - ah! that makes so much more sense.  Apparently I can't detect rhetorical questions on the blog.

Vancouver is pretty full of 'where else?' moments. Though Broad street in Victoria is like that, too.

flannel tom
#235 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

@srk - he is... his dad was dutchy, a long time, hard livin east coast bluesman

flannel tom
#236 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

the same statement I made for wolf parade stands for handsome furs for me. I just don't get tit.

flannel tom
#237 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

IT. I just don't get IT.

tea&cartography
#238 posted by
tea&cartography
on Jul 10, 2013

@ftom

what about ms flanelette?

 

hedgeway
#239 posted by
hedgeway
on Jul 10, 2013

236 - Given the cover of Handsome Furs' last album, that typo is hilariously appropriate.

mcfflyer
#240 posted by
mcfflyer
on Jul 10, 2013

@JonDixon - Improve?  Hmmm.  I'm not sure how to answer that.  If anything it did change.  Certainly, the construction of BART changed transit in the San Francisco Bay Area, allowing you to cross under the bay faster than you could drive.  It also opened up the East Bay, especially the far East Bay, Lafayette, Walnut Creek and Concord, to rapid transit directly to San Francisco.  It's quite a system, but now hard to believe its been in operaton over 40 years.

As for the surface transit in San Francisco, the streetcars were gone from Market Street for years, but obviously buses still remained.  Streetcars returned to the surface when the streetcar lines were expanded along the bay waterfront, and now are just part of the City.  But most of the street car lines to the far side of the city are still underground, so there is less streetcar congestion on Market Street.

flannel tom
#241 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

@t and c - Hi-oooooooooooooo

flannel tom
#242 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

@hedge - link the cover of it? I can't picture it.

evensteven
#243 posted by
evensteven
on Jul 10, 2013

I lika dis Cuts Like a Knife

hedgeway
#244 posted by
hedgeway
on Jul 10, 2013

@FT - The album is galled "Sound Kapital". I'll let you google it on your own. it's one of those NSFW deals.

flannel tom
#245 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

@hedge - k will do... probably wait til I'm home to do that. Or wait - I have a smart phone. I'll look at it on there.

flannel tom
#246 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

S-m-r-t my phone is so smart!

[ps - that cover art is, how do you say,  a super spicy meatball?]

tea&cartography
#247 posted by
tea&cartography
on Jul 10, 2013

did you want to go for indian tonight at bob's?

tea&cartography
#248 posted by
tea&cartography
on Jul 10, 2013

wrong little window.

you're welcome to come too though blog!

loweeda
#249 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

I would love to go for indian tonight at bob's!  Thanks for asking, t&c :)

carlyg
#250 posted by
carlyg
on Jul 10, 2013

#247 - Made my day! I could really use some delicious Indian food!

nvp
#251 posted by
nvp
on Jul 10, 2013

 

i love that an indian food place is called bob's.

hedgeway
#252 posted by
hedgeway
on Jul 10, 2013

Thankfully that's not a very embarassing thing to type here by mistake. haha

loweeda
#253 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

there's a great Indian place in Brandon, actually. Yes, of all places.  It is not called Bob's, though, so it's obviously not as great as it could be.

nvp
#254 posted by
nvp
on Jul 10, 2013

 

also .. i've pasted passwords, and once a 200 line powershell script into the wrong little window.  luckily not submitted.  i think i posted a server name to the blog once by mistake though.

flannel tom
#255 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

re: bobs and 252 - yeah really, you could have told everyone that you get no tit.

tea&cartography
#256 posted by
tea&cartography
on Jul 10, 2013

@nvp

too many minimized 'stealth windows' open in my computer.

It's actually called the curry club, but the owner is awesome and full of vigour and calls himself bob.

kirkofdoom
#257 posted by
kirkofdoom
on Jul 10, 2013

I while back I went to put my password into facebook, but somehow the focus didn't seem to want to shift to my browser from my MSN messenger. So I sent my friend my password.

(luckily she didn't realise what it was until I changed my password and told her)

loweeda
#258 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

Is Bob really his name, or does he just call himself that? Because if he just calls himself that, it is even more proof of his awesomeness.

flannel tom
#259 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

the worst is having multiple text messages on the go at once and sending an inappropriate msg to the wrong person.

Been there hahaha

hedgeway
#260 posted by
hedgeway
on Jul 10, 2013

Texting multiple people while under the influence of alcohol always leads to mistakes.

flannel tom
#261 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

re guys named Bob that obviously aren't really named Bob:

I went to school with a Chinese dude who went by Gary. His real name was nothing even remotely related to Gary.

tea&cartography
#262 posted by
tea&cartography
on Jul 10, 2013

@loweeda

his real name is balal........

kirkofdoom
#263 posted by
kirkofdoom
on Jul 10, 2013

a couple times I've sent something to the wrong person with the same first name, but it's always been innocuous

("I'll bring the wine gums" was not a euphemism)

loweeda
#264 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

Well, Balal/Bob, you just made some fans today, thanks to t&c's accident. I want to go to your place for dinner now.

and ya, hedgeway, sending the drunk text is almost always a bad idea. Altho I love getting them, because they are almost always hilarious.

carlyg
#265 posted by
carlyg
on Jul 10, 2013

#259 - I can confirm that this has happened! Nice work, Tom. Sheesh.

nvp
#266 posted by
nvp
on Jul 10, 2013

 

this tune always makes me think of that alt-j song .. i love you so, i love you so ..

loweeda
#267 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

haha, carlyg, did Tom send you a sext accidentally?! Because that is completely fantastic and I'm laughing really loud right now.

flannel tom
#268 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

hahaha, I was hoping you'd forget that one Carly!

kirkofdoom
#269 posted by
kirkofdoom
on Jul 10, 2013

loweeda,

"accidentally"

loweeda
#270 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

lol, carly's like, "WTF TOM I DON'T LIKE YOU LIKE THAT!!"

ahahhahha, I can't stop laughing.

hedgeway
#271 posted by
hedgeway
on Jul 10, 2013

Well this isn't awkward now....

tea&cartography
#272 posted by
tea&cartography
on Jul 10, 2013

@tom/carly

I just snorted at my desk.

That's amusing.

flannel tom
#273 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

There were no sext's! I was just saying good night to someone, ever so politely.

carlyg
#274 posted by
carlyg
on Jul 10, 2013

Oh no, not awkward... quite hilarious! It wasn't so bad, not a sext, but it definitely wasn't for me! Mr. Smalliebigs and I might have been pretty drunk at the time it was received. Funny times.

loweeda
#275 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

OK OK, it was me who boldly stated the sext idea.  I apologize to both Tom and Carly.

(but come on, we were all thinking it)

carlyg
#276 posted by
carlyg
on Jul 10, 2013

I totally wish it had been a sext. This would make the story so much better! (Just kidding, Tom!)

flannel tom
#277 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

And, it was during NXNE and it was pretty late here, so I can only imagine what carly was doing up so late in Toronto haha!

Going to shows? Sh'yah right.

;)

Laura Beth
#278 posted by
Laura Beth
on Jul 10, 2013

Hello Blog Friends!  I'm alive. I survived the floods, and got a day off yesterday due to no power/flooding at work! WOO! 

KristaMark
#279 posted by
KristaMark
on Jul 10, 2013

HELLO! 

I had a mad love for ERIC'S TRIP in high school. Behind the Garage was one of the first songs I learned on guitar. 

flannel tom
#280 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

@loweeda - that's all right, I can handle it. I dish it out so I better be able to handle it right?

carlyg
#281 posted by
carlyg
on Jul 10, 2013

@Tom - Hey now! Don't try to turn this around on me... haha

flannel tom
#282 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

I just looked up the text that was inadvertently sent... pretty tame, really. Hilarious but tame.

loweeda
#283 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

that's fer damn sure, flannel tom. And if you can't handle it, you can just blame Carly*

*I don't mean that, Carly. He started it.

 

KristaMark
#284 posted by
KristaMark
on Jul 10, 2013

I also wish I was going to be at WFF with all you fine folk! 

loweeda
#285 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

I wish you were here, too, Krista!  As I've told you multiple times (and will keep telling you until you make it here) you guys would LOVE Winnipeg folk fest.

so get here, sometime, why dontcha? :)

carlyg
#286 posted by
carlyg
on Jul 10, 2013

He could actually blame me for this one. I did start it!

@Krista - You and me both! I want to be at WFF!

flannel tom
#287 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

BLAME CARLY!

KristaMark
#288 posted by
KristaMark
on Jul 10, 2013

@loweeda  @carly   If I had my way, I would live in a van for the summer and tour all the festivals in Canada with my family.  

But then I'd have to be rich.

flannel tom
#289 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

the mouth harp or whatever that thing is called will always remind me of fred penner.

Laura Beth
#290 posted by
Laura Beth
on Jul 10, 2013

Does anyone know of any R3ers going to Hillside? 

KristaMark
#291 posted by
KristaMark
on Jul 10, 2013

@LauraBeth   re: Hillside  

I AM!!!! Mark and I go EVERY YEAR! this will be Hillside number 8!

KristaMark
#292 posted by
KristaMark
on Jul 10, 2013

Whoa can you tell i'm really excited for Hillside this year? Lol

Laura Beth
#293 posted by
Laura Beth
on Jul 10, 2013

@KRISTAMARK OH MY GOD!!!!!! CAN WE MEET UP?!  ALL CAPS BECAUSE I'M EXCITED FOR THIS!    I'm a first timer! A friend of mine is a volunteer coordinator so I'm going with the free pass she gets! 

loweeda
#294 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

Krista: If I had my way I would have one of those vans, too, and we could have a whole R3 Festival Van Convoy - that would definitely include Hillside, because I have to get to that festival, too.

marie_curious
#295 posted by
marie_curious
on Jul 10, 2013

I would go to Hillside if it wasn't $75 and sold out.

tea&cartography
#296 posted by
tea&cartography
on Jul 10, 2013

@marie/kristamark

are yous coming to home county?

flannel tom
#297 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

I feel like Jale was around longer than 3 years but maybe not.

DirtyGiveAway
#298 posted by
DirtyGiveAway
on Jul 10, 2013

In 12 months this has become one of the worst online radio stations available. It went from playing a wide variety of Canadian indie music, to playing (what I would classify) as country, adult contemporary or otherwise uninspired music. Is it that there is no good, interesting Canadian music out there? I doubt it. This site is basically a circle jerk for the same dozen artist. This place used to be so cool, it was diverse, new, and exciting. Head over to Indie103.1 to get some actual musical diversity. And power to you if this station fills your needs, but man, we lost a beautiful thing here. For the love of music get back to being a radio station that cares about all music, not just what the subscribers on the blog care about. PAYCE

marie_curious
#299 posted by
marie_curious
on Jul 10, 2013

@t&c: Sadly, I can't make that happen either. I am just going to quit lying to myself and admit that I am bad at making it to music festivals.

nvp
#300 posted by
nvp
on Jul 10, 2013

 

hmmm.. so JALE coulda been called ALJE, and pronounce algae.

marie_curious
#301 posted by
marie_curious
on Jul 10, 2013

@DirtyGiveAway: I feel that way too sometimes.

flannel tom
#302 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

I was just looking at the Hillside lineup to see what's what and I saw an act called Indians. It's one white guy from Denmark. Who calls himself Indians.

Give me a break man,

TheRadioHead
#303 posted by
TheRadioHead
on Jul 10, 2013

#298  DirtyGiveAway

Complaining here is ineffective. 

Complain on publicly on social media. 

Write them.  If you need names and addresses, write me at the email address on my profile page and I can give you a list.

Michael Wynn
#304 posted by
Michael Wynn
on Jul 10, 2013

@lee and all, just invoking my name sometimes will fix everything!

loweeda
#305 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

Despite the unfortunate name, Indians makes good music, imho.

And you're not alone in your thinking, DirtyGiveAway. Just sayin.

mcfflyer
#306 posted by
mcfflyer
on Jul 10, 2013

@DirtyGiveAway - Can't say I disagree - but don't blame this blog, as many of us have complained at the shift in Radio3 programming over the past couple of years. 

mcfflyer
#307 posted by
mcfflyer
on Jul 10, 2013

@Michael Wynn - Anything change between 8 am and now?  Stream is now as stable as ever, but this morning, I could barely get it to lock on.

Laura Beth
#308 posted by
Laura Beth
on Jul 10, 2013

@Loweeda does that mean you ARE going to hillside? Minus the van? 

loweeda
#309 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

To tell the truth, I haven't listened to the stream in months - partly because I was in school and busy but also because of the things that DirtyGiveAway outlines above.  I'll keep listening to the podcasts and Grant's show when he's live, but (as lovely as the rest of the hosts may be) I have no need or interest in listening to pre-taped, pre-packaged playlists. Radio should be a living, breathing, excreting thing - not as sterilized as cbcmusic seems to have become as of late.

Wow, I'm not sure where that came from, but I thank DirtyGiveAway for starting this conversation.  things need to be said.

 

mcfflyer
#310 posted by
mcfflyer
on Jul 10, 2013

Hey loweeda - Well said!

KristaMark
#311 posted by
KristaMark
on Jul 10, 2013

@LauraBeth    HELL YEAH!!!!  that's exciting this is your first year! and kudos to you for scoring a free pass. tickets/passes for Hillside are a coveted item.   You will be forever changed after your weekend at Hillside. It is a magical place! 

Mark and I camp every year too. So we'll be there from Thursday to Monday!  And on Saturday we get a kid free day/night! My daughter Alice will be at grandmas so mom and dad can REALLY party! 

Laura Beth
#312 posted by
Laura Beth
on Jul 10, 2013

@Loweeda yes, very well said!  I often don't listen and just blog!  Between R3 and R2 I get so bored of the repetition. 

loweeda
#313 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

Thanks, mcfflyer.  That means a lot coming from another long-time listener.

KristaMark
#314 posted by
KristaMark
on Jul 10, 2013

@ T&C   sadly no HCFF this year :(  we are just too busy this summer! we went last year and had a great time with all our R3 friends.  

KristaMark
#315 posted by
KristaMark
on Jul 10, 2013

@LauraBeth    we should exchange digits!  If you're on facebook, I'm Krista Currie

if not, my email is  currie221@rogers.com

Laura Beth
#316 posted by
Laura Beth
on Jul 10, 2013

@Krista  yes, we'll definitely try to meet up then! The friend I'm going with has to volunteer for a bit so I'll be doing some wandering alone I think.  I'm really looking forward to it! Perhaps I'll get back at you with some questions at some point.  Someone told me to make sure I have my bathing suit!

 

Laura Beth
#317 posted by
Laura Beth
on Jul 10, 2013

@Krista just sent a friend request! 

mcfflyer
#318 posted by
mcfflyer
on Jul 10, 2013

@loweeda - What I especially appreciated about your post was your comment on radio - namely live radio.  The way it should be.  Could not agree more.

garfielduk
#319 posted by
garfielduk
on Jul 10, 2013

@Loweeda #309, I would also have to agree with you.

 

I don't usually say anything as I don't pay for the CBC through taxes.

marie_curious
#320 posted by
marie_curious
on Jul 10, 2013

Everyone going to Hillside has to go see the Lowest of the Low set, and then report back to me with every little detail, so that I can pretend I was there.

stevierayk
#321 posted by
stevierayk
on Jul 10, 2013

No hillside for me. I can't stand Hillside anymore.

 

Re: Dirty Give Away - all things must pass. sadly.

Laura Beth
#322 posted by
Laura Beth
on Jul 10, 2013

@MC Noted!

loweeda
#323 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

I'm intrigued as to why stevierayk has such strong negative feelings about Hillside, and I want him to tell us why.

Or just make something up, even.

stevierayk
#324 posted by
stevierayk
on Jul 10, 2013

@M-C - we played with Ron Hawkins and the Rusty Nails. Whenever the horn players weren't needed, they sat down to a game of cards just to the side of the stage. 

It was kinda slick

KristaMark
#325 posted by
KristaMark
on Jul 10, 2013

@LauraBeth  Yay! new festival friends! definitely welcome to hang with us while your friend works. a bathing suit is a must as the festival is right on Guelph lake. Btw, how did you manage to get a free volunteer pass and not actually volunteer? (must know your secret!)

TheRadioHead
#326 posted by
TheRadioHead
on Jul 10, 2013

The subject of the decline of R3 hasn't been disregarded on this blog.  It's been discussed thoroughly, so thoroughly that they had to send Steve and Pedro to babysit us and quell a rebellion.

 

Complaining here does not work.  If people really, really want to try to provoke some change it needs to be done aggressively and publicly.  A place to start would be a petition on social media.  But I have tested the waters for this, and it was difficult to even get a unified opinion about what we should be asking for.

 

I've done my share of letter writing and shit disturbing to try and affect some change.  If you really want this, start a FB group and start a discussion.  See if we can come to a resolution.

flannel tom
#327 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

oh are we having a gripe session?i won't get into it but yes, it seems like the mandate is no longer to be interesting but rather to turn a profit.

Laura Beth
#328 posted by
Laura Beth
on Jul 10, 2013

@Kristamark because she's a coordinator, she gets hers plus a free one? I believe.  She coordinates the first-aid/health stuff! 

loweeda
#329 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

I think the only way programming would change is if the CBC becomes a publicly-funded entity like NPR.  Which may happen before too long, anyway.  

mcfflyer
#330 posted by
mcfflyer
on Jul 10, 2013

@flannel tom  [327] - Is there a profit to be made?  A real profit?  Income from where?  I can see the cutting of costs to the bone and then out comes the bone saw.

KristaMark
#332 posted by
KristaMark
on Jul 10, 2013

@stevierayk     re: Hillside  I know some friends who feel the same. It has grown a lot over the years, is more expensive, and harder to get tickets. But I just can't bring myself to ever leave that place!! They have had some amazing R3 artists there over the years too. Can I ask why you can't stand it? 

carlyg
#333 posted by
carlyg
on Jul 10, 2013

Admittedly, I rarely listen to R3 anymore... KEXP and NPR are winning out in my world.

KristaMark
#334 posted by
KristaMark
on Jul 10, 2013

@laurabeth      Lucky duck!  

marie_curious
#335 posted by
marie_curious
on Jul 10, 2013

I could complain that there is too much country and trash pop being played here, but then someone else might say there is not enough of it. So there is no sense in complaining about it.

The only consistent problem that daily listeners seem to have is the repetition. It would be nice to hear more oldies-but-goodies in the mix instead of hearing the same handful of songs over and over.

Grant Lawrence
#336 posted by
Grant Lawrence
on Jul 10, 2013

SUB POP MEGA BLOG TODAY!!!

mcfflyer
#337 posted by
mcfflyer
on Jul 10, 2013

@marie - it certainly didn't help when the powers that be cut half of the "system library", limiting what could be played.  You are so right.

KristaMark
#338 posted by
KristaMark
on Jul 10, 2013

@carly  [333]   and what are those? web radio stations? I should check out ;)

Laura Beth
#339 posted by
Laura Beth
on Jul 10, 2013

@Grant YO!

carlyg
#340 posted by
carlyg
on Jul 10, 2013

@Krista - KEXP is a radio station from Seattle. You can stream on their website.

NPR is National Public Radio from the US. I love quite a few of their programs and the 24/7 music stream is pretty great!

Grant Lawrence
#341 posted by
Grant Lawrence
on Jul 10, 2013

Whoa... have I walked into a blog rebellion?! Am I your Louis Reil or your RCMP?

Lana Gay
#342 posted by
Lana Gay
on Jul 10, 2013

Just a thought - what albums from Canadian indie artists that have been released in the last 6 months should we be playing?

loweeda
#343 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

Are you live, Grant? If so, you're our saviour.

Next to Michael Wynn, of course.

EricR
#344 posted by
EricR
on Jul 10, 2013

@Lana, Grant, et al. -- I think that might be part of the problem, through nobody's fault, all the "big" indie players (BSS, ArFire, Stars, etc.) are currently between albums.  Even since everything sync'd up in 2010, we haven't had a good mix of those 'evergreen' artists and new material.  It doesn't help that recent releases by 'popular indie' artists have been shunned by the R3 audience (see: T&S, Metric, etc.).

As you point out, Lana, you can only play what is being released (without becoming some sort of 'old time/classic indie rock' station) so you're also somewhat limited that way.

marie_curious
#345 posted by
marie_curious
on Jul 10, 2013

[342]: Any, just more of them. And put more lesser known musicians on the air.

stevierayk
#346 posted by
stevierayk
on Jul 10, 2013

@Loweeda – you want to know why I hate Hillside? I’ll tell you. I spend the entire time either standing in line for beer or standing outside of one of the tents talking to friends. I don’t need to pay for that. I’ve played too many shows and seen too many bands to get excited about it.

 

flannel tom
#347 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

i just wrote a spiel then deleted it because you've all heard it before I'm sure.

The point is, I am on the cbc music website everyday because I love Canadian music. Mostly Independent stuff. R3 doesn't fill my needs "as well as it once did" (I don't really know what that means) but I can find all kinds of new to me music by exploring and often a bands cbc page is what I'm listening to . Check out my little profile thing. I have something like 250 bands I've "liked". That's pretty much what I'm listening to.

Occasionally am tuning into R3 but certainly not as often as I once was.

EricR
#348 posted by
EricR
on Jul 10, 2013

To clarify: the answer to everything isn't "play more Broken Social Scene" ... but those are the sorts of artists that can anchor a station like this.  You can't just play every song only once, ever, and continue to find more and more remote and unknown artists to play; you do need to build a certain 'expected' rotation of sure-fire, 'evergreen' music into which you can introduce new music.  

Ever made a mix tape/CD for someone and it'd been 100% stuff they've never heard?  It never seems to go over quite-so-well as when you put some new stuff in-between stuff they're already familiar with.  (at least, that's been my experience).

Gotta run; have a great show, Grant!

flannel tom
#349 posted by
flannel tom
on Jul 10, 2013

@ericR - I would counter that overplaying of Stars et al is the problem. Or at least a good part of it.

loweeda
#350 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

stevierayk: gotcha. And it makes complete sense.

 

stevierayk
#351 posted by
stevierayk
on Jul 10, 2013

How can a station that plays Rap/Country/Rock/everything else except Jazz and Classical, make everyone happy. Impossible. I take the good I take the bad I take them both and then you have…….that’s right the facts of fuckin life.

 

kirkofdoom
#352 posted by
kirkofdoom
on Jul 10, 2013

Lana, 342

I've been saying forever that R3 should be playing Jess Hill. She had a new EP out in March, and Capsized would sound nice in rotation.

It's mellow, folky stuff, but she has an amazing voice. 

Laura Beth
#353 posted by
Laura Beth
on Jul 10, 2013

I think it would be impossible to have a happy balance for everyone. It appears most people just wish it was like it was when R3 first started, with more live shows. Maybe more of a variety in shows would be better. 

loweeda
#354 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

I can't really comment on what R3 should be playing when I haven't been listening regularly, but I just discovered Indicator Indicator and he is awesome and I would love to hear everything he's recorded be on Radio 3 all the time.

I see that he also has an R3 page, which is to his credit, but it only has a measly 10 plays. That should change.

Grant Lawrence
#355 posted by
Grant Lawrence
on Jul 10, 2013

Hey folks, here's the exact numbers regarding the Radio 3 Playlist:

Our legal agreement with the CRTC states that CBC Radio 3 must play 100% "emerging Canadian music", and that 50% of that music MUST be released within the last six months.

So, if you are doing the math, 50% or more of what you are hearing today has been released between Feb 10 - Jul 10 2013. 

The other sprinkling of tracks you hear are considered "gold" and not for rotation... that's anything released outside of the last six months.

So in a five song set, three songs must be within the last six months and two songs can be gold.

 

 

garfielduk
#356 posted by
garfielduk
on Jul 10, 2013

@R3, What happened with the idea of talking about the new releases each Tuesday and featuring some of the songs newly added to the system each Friday?

Grant Lawrence
#357 posted by
Grant Lawrence
on Jul 10, 2013

@loweeda I just heard Indicator Indicator on DNTO!

TheRadioHead
#358 posted by
TheRadioHead
on Jul 10, 2013

 

The Idlers. Ken Mode. The Lytics, though there last release is just over 6 months, R3 could have play it.

I had a very, very interesting exchange with Alan Cross a couple of weeks ago, and to quote him "The good-to-crap ratio is worse than at any point in rock'n'roll history." 

So I know you guys have a narrow window to choose from, why don't you cast a wider net?  Where is the Ska, afrobeat, funk, hip hop that you taught us about and that we have come to love because you exposed us to it.

I have written everyone I know about this.  The last person to respond to me was Ann MacKeigan.  She seemed receptive but I don't know her well enough to know if she was pandering to me to shut me up.

 

I wish I had more time to discuss this but it is WFF opening night. 

 

 

No Longer Lurking
#359 posted by
No Longer Lurking
on Jul 10, 2013

@FT - Whoa, can there ever be such a thing as the overplaying of Stars?

loweeda
#360 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

Grant, yes, that's where I heard him, too!  And I loved it! And he's from Winnipeg! And he's going into the studio again right away! All good things! 

kirkofdoom
#361 posted by
kirkofdoom
on Jul 10, 2013

Also, does R3 have anything from the upcoming Paper Lions album yet? I know they put up Philadelphia a while ago...

marie_curious
#362 posted by
marie_curious
on Jul 10, 2013

Maybe the problem is that we listen everyday, and we're bored.

It's like your spouse (or your mom, or your dog, or whathaveyou): You love them dearly, but when you see each other every minute of every day, you hear the same stories and see the same habits, and it gets on your nerves.

loweeda
#363 posted by
loweeda
on Jul 10, 2013

359 ftw

markgage
#364 posted by
markgage
on Jul 10, 2013

Wow, Lots going on here today!!  I just wanted to say that continual cuts to the cbc budget cannot have helped things here.  All of the sudden things changed from playing whatever was new and interesting to making sure the site was getting enough traffic.  The whole mandate changed and so did the music.

@SRK  Last year was much better for lineups at Hillside.  They cut attendance in order to keep the lines smaller and seemed to plan popular shows a bit better.  I love hillside.  I have to defend it.  Two years ago our whole group of friends filled out the survey and told them how dissapointing it was to pay for a festival and then not be able to get into a tent to see the show so i hear what your saying there.