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“Good night, we love you!” hollers the singer into the microphone. The band struts off stage. The lights fade to black.

“Do you think they are coming back?” someone whispers next to you in the crowd. “They didn’t play my favourite song.”

I’ve got news for you. Musicians always come back. They’ve been doing it for hundreds of years. It’s called an encore (from the French word, meaning “again”). The encore began as a spontaneous additional performance by the artist in response to the demands of a rapacious audience craving “more!”

These days, most musicians plan an encore and a lot of the spontaneity has been taken away by the audience’s expectation of “more.”

Of course the band will be coming back on, it’s what they do. “Good night!” means “See you in a few minutes when I’m satisfied you’ve chanted my name, stomped your feet and clapped loud enough for me.”

Maybe it’s time for me to make my position clear: I don’t like encores. I find the false theatrics irritating.

For me, a concert has a certain arc. I enjoy the support band, which rarely plays an encore; I get excited about the buildup to see the main act, which sets the venue on fire when it arrives on the stage.

The show will have loud moments, quiet songs, new songs and the familiar songs that whoop the crowd into frenzy. The concert builds over the night until the last song, which brings the house down and everyone goes home wanting more, desperate to see the band the next time they pull into town.

Why, oh why would you finish a concert with your second-best song, then make the crowd cry out for the hit you've kept up your sleeve all night as a planned encore? Play your ace, don’t keep it in your hand!

You’ve heard the phrase “Elvis has left the building.” That’s because Elvis Presley rarely played encores. His manager, Colonel Tom Parker, knew a trick or two about leaving the crowd wanting more. 

Bob Marley dealt with the encore differently. Halfway through a show, the musicians would take a break, smoke, tune up and visit the washroom, then they’d come back and play an hour-long encore, which was really just the second part of the concert. 

I love this idea. Everyone needs a bathroom or beer break in the middle of a show. When you put that break at the end of a concert the audience is trapped. You can’t go to the bathroom – what if the band comes back and plays your favourite song you’ve waited all night to hear and you are sitting on the can?

Not all musicians applaud the encore, either.

British folk singer Laura Marling warns the audience three songs before her finale that there will be no encore. She has declared an end to the tradition of encores and hopes other musicians will take a stand against the encore’s false theatrics with her. 

Arctic Monkeys go even further, calling the encore an ''American custom'' that they find ''unnecessary'' in their performances. Ouch!

Jimmy Buffett, on the other hand, loves an encore, or three. 

And while there’s no official world record for the most encores performed, the Cure (of all bands) is said to have done the most, at five encores after a show. Don’t Cure fans have homes to go to? 

I’m not saying I wish bands would play shorter sets. I’m not even saying I won’t stay for the encore(s). I would like to see the encore, get absorbed into the bulk of the performance so “this is our last song” means exactly that.

The encore has become a diehard habit for bands, and maybe we’re to blame when we encourage them with chants of “we want more!”

So if you’re at a show tonight, the band just finished and you see a tech on stage tuning the guitarist’s Les Paul, the house lights are still off, trust me: the band is coming back and I’ll probably still be standing there right next to you shouting for more, but secretly wishing I didn’t have to beg.

 

 The Supersuckers make it perfectly clear where they stand on the encore. (Strong Language)

When it comes to encores, do they leave you wanting more or is it time for artists to pull the curtain on this age old stage trick? Let us know in the comments below.

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binsy
#1 posted by
binsy
on Jun 06, 2012

A recent article on the "Watch the Throne" tour noted that Jay-Z and Kanye began doing "Niggas in Paris" as their encore song multiple times reaching a high of a nine-peat in LA near the end of the tour. 

 

 

Fredryk
#2 posted by
Fredryk
on Jun 06, 2012

@Peter - It's raining here in Halifax. It's allways effing raining here!

flagpole music
#3 posted by
flagpole music
on Jun 06, 2012

wow, Pete, a pale Brit. that never happens. get a picture.It's sunny, clear, 78F/25C here in the City of Angels. & at some point this weekend I get to have a beer & discuss James Ellroy & LA Confidential & grisly crime with a fellow R3-er. Woot!! Good times. 

kidcauley
#4 posted by
kidcauley
on Jun 06, 2012

I also feel the standing ovation is super overused. Seems like anyone will stand up and applaud anything, and as soon as one person does - everyone feels they have to join suite.

nvp
#5 posted by
nvp
on Jun 06, 2012

no fake encores!

PeanutButter
#6 posted by
PeanutButter
on Jun 06, 2012

Couldn't agree with you more on this one Pete.  Also, am loving hearing someone new on weekdays!

alsace lorraine
#7 posted by
alsace lorraine
on Jun 06, 2012

I don't mind encores as long as there is not a long wait. I hate when bands take a long time waiting around backstage. I think it was Lisa who said that at the Prince show, he got back on stage for an encore after a 30 minute wait. Who would even wait that long?

@kidcauley. I hate when people give standing ovations. It is for something specacular, not for every play/show you see.

binsy
#8 posted by
binsy
on Jun 06, 2012

ERIC'S TRIP!

morgana
#9 posted by
morgana
on Jun 06, 2012

if i watch all of those links i will never get this pot of soup made but here i go with my opinion on encores;

opening bands - never

main acts - seems like a given that they do but man they can be so fake.  perhaps some acting skills for musicans?

have to say that two summers ago when the headliner of the night at starbelly jam ran off the stage to get a flight to his next gig and did not do an encore it changed the whole experiece of what had been a great show until then.

Pete Morey
#10 posted by
Pete Morey
on Jun 06, 2012

@fredryk Yes I feel better thanks for that. 

 

Fredryk
#11 posted by
Fredryk
on Jun 06, 2012

@Kathleen #4 - Does that mean that your next show I go to I should sit down when you are done and not clap?

kirkofdoom
#12 posted by
kirkofdoom
on Jun 06, 2012

Encores are played out.

I like it when the artists poke fun at the encore tradition, though. I think think it was English band Athlete that mocked the practice when I saw them years ago... the lead singer picked up the setlist and said something like "this line here means we are supposed to go away and come back, but you're all wise to that, so the boys are going to go get a beer and I'm just going to hang out here" at which point he just sat on the edge of the stage chatting with the people in the front for a few minutes.

And I've seen a few bands say something along the lines of "just pretend we left and came back, now here's another song"

 

though i have seen a couple legitimate encores, which are kind of cool... but it's always nice when the band just plays right up until the end, and that's it. 

jdurley
#13 posted by
jdurley
on Jun 06, 2012

Re: Encores

Here are my thoughts:

1) Bands should never, ever, reserve their biggest hits for the encore.  Encore songs should be back-catalogue or obscure tracks or even covers.  The main oeuvre should be covered during the set list.

2) No "fake" encores - don't come back after 30 seconds of weak applause - that's lame.  We're clapping because we're being polite, we don't really want more.

3) If it's a great show, and I am left wanting more, and I'm willing to yell and stomp and clap and whistle for it, then bands should do an encore.

4) If the crowd really, really won't leave after the first encore, a second encore is permitted - and it sure is a magical moment when that happens!

Standing Ovations - this should be left to the discretion of the individual concert-goer - who am I to judge what someone else deems standing-o-worthy?  But don't expect me to get up just because you are.

kidcauley
#14 posted by
kidcauley
on Jun 06, 2012

@Fred - you try not clapping! I dare you! You won't be able to resist clapping and stomping

smalliebigs
#15 posted by
smalliebigs
on Jun 06, 2012

I'm getting as repetitive as one of my beloved grandparents but:

The last time I saw Ben Harper he did 4 encores. I got the impression, hoewver, that this wasn't a planned setlist but truly a reaciton to a big showing of enthusiasm, as the show went a good deal later than it was meant to. 

The Avett Brothers are also known to side-step all that encore business, giving a warning a few songs from the end. 

Interestingly enough, a lot of folk fest performers refuse to play the encore game, too. 

morgana
#16 posted by
morgana
on Jun 06, 2012

by the way pete, i am making soup because it has not stopped raining for three days here.  that combined with a snow pack of 176% ='s overflowing creeks and rivers.  have already had to climb out on the roof today to get leaves out of the gutters as they were overflowing and i would rather not do the flooded basement thing today.

jdurley
#17 posted by
jdurley
on Jun 06, 2012

@Pete - also, it's really clouding over here in TO, so you're not actually missing anything, weather-wise...

Fredryk
#18 posted by
Fredryk
on Jun 06, 2012

@KC - If that's a dare I will win. Playing any shows early/mid August?

marie_curious
#19 posted by
marie_curious
on Jun 06, 2012

That's exactly why I think the term "second encore" should not exist.

Fredryk
#20 posted by
Fredryk
on Jun 06, 2012

I LOVE unplanned encores! If it's a band I like then I love a planned encore. Who doesn't want to hear more music from a band they like? Come on!

carlyg
#21 posted by
carlyg
on Jun 06, 2012

@Smalliebigs - I didn't get to reply earlier, but I am very jealous you got to see Ben Harper. Diamonds on the Inside is still pretty much a perfect album in my opinion. I was a huge fan... I guess I still am, just don't love his newer stuff as much.

binsy
#22 posted by
binsy
on Jun 06, 2012

@Pete

Also, thanks for clearing up what "encore" means. 

kidcauley
#23 posted by
kidcauley
on Jun 06, 2012

we are playing Aug 10th at the black sheep inn!

smalliebigs
#24 posted by
smalliebigs
on Jun 06, 2012

@Carlyg: the third (and most recent) time I saw him was likely the most magical, perhaps, as it was the first time I saw him indoors and there's a certain something in the air at his shows. 

Diamonds on the Inside was really my entry point for his music, and from there I went both backwards and forwards. It was also my first adult exposure to Ladysmith Black Mambazo, and that's a group I can't get enough of now--as much as it makes many of my friends and famly think i'm really freaking weird. 

kirkofdoom
#25 posted by
kirkofdoom
on Jun 06, 2012

I've seen Stars do an unplanned encore. The house music was back up and the shutters were raising. Some people were leaving, but the majority cheering. Torquil slowly came back out, looking kind of awed and very appreciative, and they ended up doing I think one more.

Another legit one was Small Sins. They came back out saying they were not planning on an encore, and they had actually played all the songs they knew live... and then just jammed, improvising a song about Vancouver. That was an awesome encore.

morgana
#26 posted by
morgana
on Jun 06, 2012

@smalliebigs #24 i too am a huge fan of ladysmith black mambazo which brings me to type "rain rain rain rain, oh beautiful rain, oh come never come, oh come never come, beautiful rain"  no song however for make that three day torrent stop!

carlyg
#27 posted by
carlyg
on Jun 06, 2012

@Smalliebigs - No need to rub it in that you have seen him three times! Sheesh!! Kididng... I am just jealous.

Admittedly, I also love Ladysmith Black Mambazo. I have seen them a few times. My mother would tell you that I way over played then when I was growing up. I just dug it.  Aren't they playing the Edmonton FF?

flannel tom
#28 posted by
flannel tom
on Jun 06, 2012

Encores: I'm pretty much with you on this topic, Pete. Especially on the Bob Marley style of two sets. So many times I have wished for that, especially at the Foo Fighters show last fall that I went to. They played for something stupid like 3.5 hrs (which, hey, that's cool) but lord ahve his grilled cheese was I ever ready for a break at some point. Standing in one spot for that long made my feet and back just super sore so much so that by the end of the show (of which the encore was at least 40 minutes) I was all like "all right, lets get the fuck out of here!".

saguro
#29 posted by
saguro
on Jun 06, 2012

Totally off-topic, 

 

Does anyone know if you can use the website to find shows in your city instead of by band?

flannel tom
#30 posted by
flannel tom
on Jun 06, 2012

@saguro - yep, it's one of the drop down options. For the show to be listed though, the band has to have an artist page and have their show schedule updateed.

kirkofdoom
#31 posted by
kirkofdoom
on Jun 06, 2012

at saguro

the R3 concert calendar can be filtered by city, otherwise I'd suggest Pollstar.

saguro
#32 posted by
saguro
on Jun 06, 2012

@flannel tom & @kirkofdoom

 

Thanks!

 

....how does one navigate to the R3 concert Calendar?  :/

alsace lorraine
#33 posted by
alsace lorraine
on Jun 06, 2012

@saguro. I use songkick. They do it by band (for e-mail alerts) or you can browse by city on the website. I like it a lot. It gets updated very quickly.

garfielduk
#34 posted by
garfielduk
on Jun 06, 2012

click on browse on the bar above and select concert calendar

garfielduk
#35 posted by
garfielduk
on Jun 06, 2012

@alsace lorraine #33, I also like to use songkick

carlyg
#36 posted by
carlyg
on Jun 06, 2012

I can't totally remember*, but I think it was at the Pixies show last summer, the show ended everyone applauded for a really long time for an encore, they came out and played quite a few more songs and then left the stage. The house lights weren't turned on so people kept cheering and such. It took a good five-ten minutes before they turned the lights on. I was unimpressed... I wanted more!!!! It was totally teasing...

 

*best way to start a blog post, but i really think it was at the Pixies concert... maybe...

jdurley
#37 posted by
jdurley
on Jun 06, 2012

"Congratulations on your shocking length....Hi-O"  hahahahah!!

saguro
#38 posted by
saguro
on Jun 06, 2012

Thanks!!

 

/derail!  

garfielduk
#39 posted by
garfielduk
on Jun 06, 2012

Dan Mangan said that we were running low on time so they wouldn't bother going off just to come back on again

sbarbara
#40 posted by
sbarbara
on Jun 06, 2012

Encores!!  i don't like waiting around for them.. just play it all... ALL!!  but i welcome legit encores also.  my favourite, is if a band comes back out and plays a cover of a band they like.  it seems perfect. :)

hi pete.. pleased to hear u :)

alsace lorraine
#41 posted by
alsace lorraine
on Jun 06, 2012

@garf. Someone on here recommended songkick to me. I love it. The radio 3 calender doesn't always have all the shows listed (lazy bands!).

garfielduk
#42 posted by
garfielduk
on Jun 06, 2012

@alsace #41, I find with songkick I can find out which Canadian bands are playing over here and when

sbarbara
#43 posted by
sbarbara
on Jun 06, 2012

i use last.fm to send me alerts if bands i like, or similar bands are in my area.  it works ok.  i can't completely remember how i set it up tho :)  but it probably wasn't hard.

flannel tom
#44 posted by
flannel tom
on Jun 06, 2012

I REMEMBERED WHAT THE SECRET SONG IS THAT I COULDN'T THINK OF EARLIER!

On the album Rated R by Queens of The Stone Age, the "secret song" is a bunch of sax blasts and noise a la that Colin fella who was on the Polaris list last year. It sucks listening to that album and forgetting that it's coming up after the nice silence when the last track ends....

garfielduk
#45 posted by
garfielduk
on Jun 06, 2012

@sbarbara #43, hi-o, no - just me then, OK

binsy
#46 posted by
binsy
on Jun 06, 2012

@flannel tom

Nice encore blog post!

carlyg
#47 posted by
carlyg
on Jun 06, 2012

@Tom - Not the same album, sadly... but the exact type of thing happens. I hated it. It would always cause immediate/urgent running to the CD player to shut it off.

morgana
#48 posted by
morgana
on Jun 06, 2012

@garf #39 perhaps Dans way of getting around the whole encore issue because i have heard him say that before too.

flannel tom
#49 posted by
flannel tom
on Jun 06, 2012

Best encore (not really but it was pretty sweet)

Lynryd Skynyrd doing, nope, you guessed wrong.... Tuesday's Gone. Rotating white baby grand piano and epic guitar solos plus 6000 doobies simultaniously getting sparked up...

carrieg
#50 posted by
carrieg
on Jun 06, 2012

I'm not a huge fan of encores.  I'd rather they just play and tell me when they were about to finish.  Sometimes I find it awkward.

One of the best standing ovations was at the Jim Cuddy concert this past January.  Middle of the show they play '5 Days in May', Anne Lindsay breaks into this incredible violin/fiddle(?) solo that brings down the roof.  I found myself with tears in my eyes and everyone was on thier feet.  The show continued on. Barney & Dustin Bental along with Kendel Carson were in the crowd and joined them on stage for a finale.  

marie_curious
#51 posted by
marie_curious
on Jun 06, 2012

John K Sampson's encore was three random weakerthans tunes as requested by the audience.

morgana
#52 posted by
morgana
on Jun 06, 2012

scrolling up and down today - where has the top comment button gotten to?

flannel tom
#53 posted by
flannel tom
on Jun 06, 2012

@carly - yeah, I have a feeling there are other albums I listen(ed) to that have a ssimilar shocking, horrible ending.

garfielduk
#54 posted by
garfielduk
on Jun 06, 2012

@morgna #48, I did wonder at the time as the venue doesn't have a curfew

LoonChoir
#55 posted by
LoonChoir
on Jun 06, 2012

all the talk of the concert calendar made me realize I needed to update LC's show section on our profile. We going on tour homies!

kirkofdoom
#56 posted by
kirkofdoom
on Jun 06, 2012

at marie, he did that here, too

at morgana, refresh the page. you might even need to do it a couple of times, but it'll come back... eventually.

flannel tom
#57 posted by
flannel tom
on Jun 06, 2012

BA Johnston encores (which aren't really encores as he usually doesn't leave the stage) generally involve shirtlessness, playing in the ladies room (or mens room, depending on circumstances) or laying on the sidewalk outside while a crowd gathers around him and sings along.

flagpole music
#58 posted by
flagpole music
on Jun 06, 2012

I think I've told this before but Blue Rodeo were always good visitors to Chicago. Last time around, they kindly had my pal Tom Wilson open. & you know you're not done until "Lost Together". But just as they finished first encore song, this blur of red flannel hits the stage. It's Luke Doucet, who had been playing in Evanston. He finished his show, drove down to Martyrs & did a couple numbers, including "Lost Together" with the whole crowd. very cool to watch him make that effort

smalliebigs
#59 posted by
smalliebigs
on Jun 06, 2012

@Carlyg: LBM sure is playing the Edmo Folk Fest! That'll likely be my highlight...or Bahamas...or if he jams with them at a workshop for some reason? Weird and fun.

@Morgana: if you like LBM, you might have had a chuckle at Jimmy Fallon when him and the Roots created the group "Ladysmith Snack Mambazo" and sang about various snack foods, including hot pockets. Really, really funny. I can't find it on the Interwebs.

carrieg
#60 posted by
carrieg
on Jun 06, 2012

@Flaneltom - #57 that's too funny! 

@Flagpole - that must have been an amazing show!

 

Fredryk
#61 posted by
Fredryk
on Jun 06, 2012

@KC - I have to go to a wedding the next day! (•_•)

jdurley
#62 posted by
jdurley
on Jun 06, 2012

I like Pete's pronunciation of "Brasstronaut"  Braw-stro-not".  I think we should all say it like that.

flannel tom
#63 posted by
flannel tom
on Jun 06, 2012

paused the jebus out of this Fire Engine Red song and am now listening to that Marley concert in the blog post!

morgana
#64 posted by
morgana
on Jun 06, 2012

ok pete - what is with the track you play in the back ground while you are talking?  feeling lonely and need a little ambiant music?  just wondering ...

garfielduk
#65 posted by
garfielduk
on Jun 06, 2012

@margana #64, many UK radio hosts use beds* when they talk on air

 

*background music

zoot aloors
#66 posted by
zoot aloors
on Jun 06, 2012

Vish Khanna is looking for your concert stories! have you seen a band multiple times? How was that? Contribute your story, and maybe win a Dylan book! Good luck, y'all!

What'cha Readin'? Book Club

morgana
#67 posted by
morgana
on Jun 06, 2012

@smalliebigs # 59 no i have not heard the snack attack take off of LBM but it sounds like it would be fun to play in a music festival camp ground where most everyone always seems to be firing up a fattie ... munchies anyone?

flagpole music
#68 posted by
flagpole music
on Jun 06, 2012

@carre - yeah.  THey had done a Blue Rodeo & friends show there a year or so before with Luke & Justin Rutledge & Ron Sexsmith that was equally awesome.

I neglegted to mention that Wayne Petti was also along before Luke showed up & Ian McLagan from the Faces did the earlier show so we got to have band beers & chat with him.

Of course it was fun already because I had Tom for the whole weekend & got to see him do 3 shows & we went to the Art Institute & ate a ton of good food.

smalliebigs
#69 posted by
smalliebigs
on Jun 06, 2012

@Ftom: I will be seeing the Wailers Saturday. Sadly, it's the closest I'll ever get to seeing Bob and the gang play, but I've seen them before and they do a damn good job.

Pete Morey
#70 posted by
Pete Morey
on Jun 06, 2012

@morgana I have a full soundtrack that goes with my life. I have music for all things groccery shopping, grooming, gardening. I need background music where ever i go as I have a fear of silence

flannel tom
#71 posted by
flannel tom
on Jun 06, 2012

@smalliebigs - Nice! Roots reggae is maybe my favourite live music to partake in.

garfielduk
#72 posted by
garfielduk
on Jun 06, 2012

@zoot #66, thanks for the link

 

@Pete #70, that's tinnitus

morgana
#73 posted by
morgana
on Jun 06, 2012

@garf #65 aaah, thanks for the schoolin!  i have heard pete on serius on a different show before but did not realize his "bed" travelled with him to all his shows

flannel tom
#74 posted by
flannel tom
on Jun 06, 2012

easy skankin' in my office chair right now.... harder than it sounds.

Pete Morey
#75 posted by
Pete Morey
on Jun 06, 2012

@ garf sorry cann't hear you over my tinnitus

zoot aloors
#76 posted by
zoot aloors
on Jun 06, 2012

irie, mon, I be listenin' to de reggae , too, mon! Big up! (*puff, puff, pass*)

garfielduk
#77 posted by
garfielduk
on Jun 06, 2012

@Pete #75 :p

smalliebigs
#78 posted by
smalliebigs
on Jun 06, 2012

Not-so-easy skankin'. Related to not-so-kinky reggae AKA standard missionary reggae.

morgana
#79 posted by
morgana
on Jun 06, 2012

@garf #72 tinnitus is way worse than pete's bed.  ok, if you havn't been following the conversation that sounds really weird!  moving on, i suffer from tinnitus which really hinders my love of live shows but i am still going to buck 65 on saturday!!

garfielduk
#80 posted by
garfielduk
on Jun 06, 2012

@morgana #79, I have tinnitus as well, but only a very, very mild case.  I only really notice it when it's quiet.

jdurley
#81 posted by
jdurley
on Jun 06, 2012

@Pete - weather update - now it's pouring down buckets of rain into my open car window.

morgana
#82 posted by
morgana
on Jun 06, 2012

@flanneltom and smalliebigs - you guys are making it hard to cook and not crack up! 

Gotta go so have a nice afternoon y'all.

buzzzzzzzzzzzzz on garf!

flagpole music
#83 posted by
flagpole music
on Jun 06, 2012

tks, @Zoot - I guess I have a couple that might qualify - Luke Doucet through multiple albums & with or with the Mrs. Great Big Sea in shitty college bar in Columbus, OH vs House of Blues Chicago. Think I might go with watching my pal Fearing learning to love the electric guitar over the past 10 years tho....

zoot aloors
#84 posted by
zoot aloors
on Jun 06, 2012

flaggy, please join our book club if you can make the time! You'd make an awesome addition to our little group.

flagpole music
#85 posted by
flagpole music
on Jun 06, 2012

thanks, @Zoot - what would I need to do to do that? is it just out of Vish's show? I remember when he did that before but it was when I was mostly listening at work & not on the bloggy so much.

flagpole music
#86 posted by
flagpole music
on Jun 06, 2012

Bahamas from Conan yesterday

"Lost in the Light"

zoot aloors
#87 posted by
zoot aloors
on Jun 06, 2012

re: Marley, is that Robbie Shakespeare playing lead guitar? I've seen this concert on a bootleg VHS tape or something...brilliant band...

CDNz1
#88 posted by
CDNz1
on Jun 06, 2012

BA Johnson's men's room encores are true fact.

*sent from sunny 80F/27C Detroit

garfielduk
#89 posted by
garfielduk
on Jun 06, 2012

Hello Russ from Partly Cloudy 47°F/11°C (and dark) Witton Gilbert

carrieg
#90 posted by
carrieg
on Jun 06, 2012

gotta take son to chiro.

@flagpole - I'm totally hanging with you if I find myself in your neck of the woods!

 

have a great day everyone!

 

flannel tom
#91 posted by
flannel tom
on Jun 06, 2012

hey NB'ers - P&A just announceed they are playing Folly Fest in Gagetown, June 30th.

@zoot - I think it mught be but to be honest I'm not sure...  around the 39 minute mark he's got a nice little solo.

flagpole music
#92 posted by
flagpole music
on Jun 06, 2012

We used to go see a blues guiarist named Shannon Lawson. at Stevie Ray's in Louisville.  He usually wound up on top of the bar at some point & once or twice wandered out in the middle of Main St & keep playing.He was terrific. loads of energy. usually we went to O'Shea's after for late/early morning beers & he would then play bluegrass (his true love) for 2 more hours. 

flannel tom
#93 posted by
flannel tom
on Jun 06, 2012

Louisville, aka, the home of the Slugger? Sweet bats.

flagpole music
#94 posted by
flagpole music
on Jun 06, 2012

@flanneltom -- yup. that one. where for years, those sluggers were made across the river in indiana. true.

it is a helluva music town. at least when I was there. I always liked it better than Nashville. Used to be a terrific music store called Earxtacy but I believe they've closed.

flannel tom
#95 posted by
flannel tom
on Jun 06, 2012

I think Hunter S Thompson spent his younger years in Louisville too.

flannel tom
#96 posted by
flannel tom
on Jun 06, 2012

I'd like to go to Kentucky someday... seems like a pretty "under the radar" sort of place. It'd be cool to see the caves and see what the vibe is there.

flagpole music
#97 posted by
flagpole music
on Jun 06, 2012

It's a very borderline North/South town, as is Baltimore. Louisville's a mix of really old fashioned Southern & really modern architecture.  UPS has expanded the airport like crazy since I lived there.

IT was always a good food & bar town.we went out for local music a lot, partly because mostly i knew musicians. There was a good arts community when i lived there. A great theatre, the Vogue (it's now shops. ugh). It was when I still managed a video store & my staff used to gather on Fridays to watch Twin Peaks (on vhs). There was Shakespeare in the Park in the summer (Central Park off 4th) & its home to the Actors Theatre where Holly Hunter got her start

Its really humid, being right on the river & still the craziest thunderstorms I've ever been through. One of those places that's a big city but you can be in the country (& in this case, serious hillbilly country still) in about a half hour drive.

flagpole music
#98 posted by
flagpole music
on Jun 06, 2012

@FT -we scared everyone off.

darbarspecial
#99 posted by
darbarspecial
on Jun 06, 2012

You are very scarey dudes after all.

flannel tom
#100 posted by
flannel tom
on Jun 06, 2012

yeah apparently we did! Haha.... I've been listening to that Bob Marley concert for the last hour and fifteen while attemoting to get some work done... although its 4:17 now and I think I'm going to GTFO of here any minute now! Why not?

flagpole music
#101 posted by
flagpole music
on Jun 06, 2012

apparently, Dar. hehe.

oh, I've been working away at the same time too, Tom. & will be for awhile still. Of course, I can watch a movie & claim it as work.

CDNz1
#102 posted by
CDNz1
on Jun 06, 2012

Swell. I'm out in 8 mins.

zoot aloors
#103 posted by
zoot aloors
on Jun 06, 2012

Sorry, was called away on some kitchen duty. Mrs. aloors is burning/making caramel. 

flagpole music
#104 posted by
flagpole music
on Jun 06, 2012

Swell?  Did you just use swell? Are you going fishing down at the waterhole with Opie after work?

smalliebigs
#105 posted by
smalliebigs
on Jun 06, 2012

Still "here" just working away.

Chopz87
#106 posted by
Chopz87
on Jun 06, 2012

Encores are stupid.

Chopz87
#107 posted by
Chopz87
on Jun 06, 2012

BUMBOCLOT! What's all this Reggae talk without me!?

zoot aloors
#108 posted by
zoot aloors
on Jun 06, 2012

This Marley concert is swell, it's the cat's pyjamas too!

CDNz1
#109 posted by
CDNz1
on Jun 06, 2012

<-- Bringing "swell" back!

Sarcasm at its finest.

garfielduk
#110 posted by
garfielduk
on Jun 06, 2012

@Russ #109, I didn't notice sarcasm leave

Chopz87
#111 posted by
Chopz87
on Jun 06, 2012

On the topic of encores, when Coheed & Cambria played Puerto Rico the drummer went into a drum solo that seemed to go on forever and the other dudes went off stage, after I nearly fell asleep (I hate any kind of solos in concerts) they come back out to what I think will be an encore and they just hit one note and say goodnight and leave. ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

morgana
#112 posted by
morgana
on Jun 06, 2012

lurking as well as working which is cooking and window washing today.  nothing as fancy as caramel just asian noodle soup and chai tea and maybe muffins next ...

glad to see you are still around smalliebigs as i totally neglected to thank you for trying to find a link for the LBM munchie tune for me.  if you ever do come accross it i would love to know.  i went to haul out their discs after our last chat only to see that they were not snuggled between quincy jones, julian lennon, lenny kravitz ... hmmm, found them in my daughters room :) =proud parent smile

flannel tom
#113 posted by
flannel tom
on Jun 06, 2012

@ZOOT - re lead guitar player in that Marley and the Wailers concert - it's Junior Marvin and Al Anderson who are playing lead guitsr... how there are two leads, well, that's a matter of terminoligy I guess.

Chopz87
#114 posted by
Chopz87
on Jun 06, 2012

@ Zoot & Tom - This is one of the shows I'm going to see in L.A., Jamaican Legends The Pioneers

zoot aloors
#115 posted by
zoot aloors
on Jun 06, 2012

Tom, thanks for running those names down for me, bud! How cool is that?

flannel tom
#116 posted by
flannel tom
on Jun 06, 2012

@chopz - nice. have a time in LA. Curious.... what's up with skinhead reggae? I'm not familiar with it... were they guys who were into it but not rasta?

flannel tom
#117 posted by
flannel tom
on Jun 06, 2012

@zoot - at the end of the concert, conveniantly enough, they have credits roll!

zoot aloors
#118 posted by
zoot aloors
on Jun 06, 2012

Bob Marley's music has been bootlegged around the world in a shameless fashion for a long, long time. It makes me sad when copyright laws fail an artist as it had Bob Marley.

flannel tom
#119 posted by
flannel tom
on Jun 06, 2012

bye y'all, I'm heading out!

garfielduk
#120 posted by
garfielduk
on Jun 06, 2012

@FT G'nigh

Chopz87
#121 posted by
Chopz87
on Jun 06, 2012

@ Tom - Skinhead Reggae is the style of Reggae that was made between 1968 until maybe 1972, the original style of reggae. When the skinhead movement  became something apart from the Mods, they adopted Reggae as their music of choice, so much so that many Reggae artists starting recording songs made for them, (check out Skinhead Moonstomp and Skinhead Jamboree by Symarip). Since a lot of the Regae of that era had to do with Skinheads, nowadays that style of Reggae is called Skinhead Reggae.

zoot aloors
#122 posted by
zoot aloors
on Jun 06, 2012

watching the Pioneers video now, Chopzy..

flagpole music
#123 posted by
flagpole music
on Jun 06, 2012

see ya laters, FT

Chopz87
#124 posted by
Chopz87
on Jun 06, 2012

@ Zoot - YES I !

zoot aloors
#125 posted by
zoot aloors
on Jun 06, 2012

Chopz, you are the MAN!!! The Pioneers totally blew me away!!!!

morgana
#126 posted by
morgana
on Jun 06, 2012

sun wizard - meh.  don't think i am a fan based on this song.

flagpole music
#127 posted by
flagpole music
on Jun 06, 2012

aww....Wooden Sky. They did my "Oslo" request here in LA as a sort of encore. They weren't the closers so at the end they just said they could do one more & would be acoustic. I believe they did that a bunch on this recent tour. But it was cool they did my request, for sure.

zoot aloors
#128 posted by
zoot aloors
on Jun 06, 2012

The Trojan label, coincidentally enough, is prominently featured at the start of Pete's Marley link above! Chopz, will you be seeing The Pioneers as a trio, or do they have a big band?

Chopz87
#129 posted by
Chopz87
on Jun 06, 2012

Zoot - WOOO! They have an extensive discography!! Check out Down At The Club, Long SHot Kick De Bucket, Reggae Fever etc etc etc

Benoit from Ottawa
#130 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Jun 06, 2012

!

Chopz87
#131 posted by
Chopz87
on Jun 06, 2012

Zoot - They will be backed by a local band, The Delirians

Chopz87
#132 posted by
Chopz87
on Jun 06, 2012

Trojan Records is probably my favorite record label.

garfielduk
#133 posted by
garfielduk
on Jun 06, 2012

@BfO's dog #130, what's wrong boy!?

morgana
#134 posted by
morgana
on Jun 06, 2012

ok - not digging edgar and his patches of blue as it is evoking very rainy images in my mind as i look out at yep, more rain!  hey, can we please hear something sunny perhaps some top less gay love teckno .... i know it has been played a lot since the t o t announcement but what do you say?

Benoit from Ottawa
#135 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Jun 06, 2012

Just got shot by Archer.

flagpole music
#136 posted by
flagpole music
on Jun 06, 2012

all righty, kids. now I'm out. gotta go do some 'work'. No, seriously. it requires the sound portion of this computery type device so it's on to Alun Armstrong instead of Pete. at least I'm keeping it British.

see ya later!

zoot aloors
#137 posted by
zoot aloors
on Jun 06, 2012

g'night, flaggy, as always, a pleasure!

CDNz1
#138 posted by
CDNz1
on Jun 06, 2012

Par-la-vor?

PAR-ler - Pretend that the V is a U.

Trust me on this, Pete.

Benoit from Ottawa
#139 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Jun 06, 2012

I still like "parl-ver".

As do I DeadmouFive.

There's also Ottawa's "band whose name is a symbol". They're very prog rock. I call 'em "Prince".

garfielduk
#140 posted by
garfielduk
on Jun 06, 2012

@BfO #139, is that !!! (Chk Chk Chk)

CDNz1
#141 posted by
CDNz1
on Jun 06, 2012

Since you're armed, I'll allow it.

zoot aloors
#142 posted by
zoot aloors
on Jun 06, 2012

My pet peeves are not getting the accent correct on 'Kardinal Offishall', and electro band DVAS is an acronym, not "Divas".

Benoit from Ottawa
#143 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Jun 06, 2012

140: No. It's only "!".

 

(I find I type pithily when Archer is up. Yea, pithily.)

garfielduk
#144 posted by
garfielduk
on Jun 06, 2012

@zoot #142, I don't like it when hosts on radio 3 use fake British accents like Grant Lawrence and Peter Morey

Benoit from Ottawa
#145 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Jun 06, 2012

Dear zoot: I say "tough". The band chooses its name, puts it out there, but people treat it as they see fit.

Who was it (Vish?) that said Bran Van 3000 was supposed to be pronounced "three grand" -- never was, to my knowledge.

morgana
#146 posted by
morgana
on Jun 06, 2012

this elfin saddle has got me thinking about dead can dance ... anyone else

 

Benoit from Ottawa
#147 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Jun 06, 2012

Baboom to Peter Morey!

garfielduk
#148 posted by
garfielduk
on Jun 06, 2012

It's like the band Was* changed there name to Was* (not Was) and it still didn't work

 

 

*pronounced Waz

morgana
#149 posted by
morgana
on Jun 06, 2012

garf,  i remember was not was.  were they called was initially?  is that who you are talking about?

Chopz87
#150 posted by
Chopz87
on Jun 06, 2012

I cannot stress enough how much I love this song

CDNz1
#151 posted by
CDNz1
on Jun 06, 2012
garfielduk
#152 posted by
garfielduk
on Jun 06, 2012

@morgana #149, Yes, I'm sure I remember hearing that they added the brackets because people said the name wrong

garfielduk
#153 posted by
garfielduk
on Jun 06, 2012

but wikipedia says I am wrong, oh well, sorry

Benoit from Ottawa
#154 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Jun 06, 2012

Who Was it?

No, it was Was.

 

Off to the Sheep for Paper Beats Scissors and Folly and the Hunter. Bonne nuit.

garfielduk
#155 posted by
garfielduk
on Jun 06, 2012

@BfO Bonne nuit

CDNz1
#156 posted by
CDNz1
on Jun 06, 2012

Bonnie Nuts

morgana
#157 posted by
morgana
on Jun 06, 2012

@ garf hey look, still have the cd! - i have been back to my cd chest many times today.  i think i am going to slide this baby in after the show.

garfielduk
#158 posted by
garfielduk
on Jun 06, 2012

SQUIRREL!!!!!!!

zoot aloors
#159 posted by
zoot aloors
on Jun 06, 2012

Bone ewe oui, Benoit!

morgana
#160 posted by
morgana
on Jun 06, 2012

i said i would wait until after the show but ya, distracto!!  later garf and all.

Pete Morey
#161 posted by
Pete Morey
on Jun 06, 2012

Ok So how do you say the band PARLOVR??? Help me not sound like a dick guys. (maybe too late for that)

garfielduk
#162 posted by
garfielduk
on Jun 06, 2012

@Pete Parlour

CDNz1
#163 posted by
CDNz1
on Jun 06, 2012

Parlour.

You do NOT sound like a dick, by the way.

zoot aloors
#164 posted by
zoot aloors
on Jun 06, 2012

as you would, 'parlour'. I think the band spells it that way as a tip of the hat to ancient greek writings. Awesome show, Pete, will check it out again tomorrow, bye!

CDNz1
#165 posted by
CDNz1
on Jun 06, 2012

@Pete - I responded to your email. Thoughts?

zoot aloors
#166 posted by
zoot aloors
on Jun 06, 2012

Peter is only a euphemism for a dick.

Pete Morey
#167 posted by
Pete Morey
on Jun 06, 2012

@CDNZ1

Yeah lets go for it I'll email you to co-ordinate tomorrow.

 

Pete Morey
#168 posted by
Pete Morey
on Jun 06, 2012

Parlour. Got it thanks radio friends. Nice to know you got my digital back.

 

garfielduk
#169 posted by
garfielduk
on Jun 06, 2012

Huh!?

zoot aloors
#170 posted by
zoot aloors
on Jun 06, 2012

In real life too, Pete, nobody puts Baby in the corner!

CDNz1
#171 posted by
CDNz1
on Jun 06, 2012

Pete, it's what we do.

No Host Left Behind.

zoot aloors
#172 posted by
zoot aloors
on Jun 06, 2012

We're like the Guardian Angels of Internet Radio. We even have colour matching berets.

garfielduk
#173 posted by
garfielduk
on Jun 06, 2012

That reminds me, when do I get mine?

zoot aloors
#174 posted by
zoot aloors
on Jun 06, 2012

We're having you fitted for a captain's traditional head dress. the buffalo hide is being tanned as we speak...

garfielduk
#175 posted by
garfielduk
on Jun 06, 2012

@zoot, Is the buffalo out in the sun light or on a tanning bed?

CDNz1
#176 posted by
CDNz1
on Jun 06, 2012

Lee Spray-On Hide Tanner.

garfielduk
#177 posted by
garfielduk
on Jun 06, 2012

So it's CBC funded then, no expense spent

zoot aloors
#178 posted by
zoot aloors
on Jun 06, 2012

It's really more of a Yak than a buffalo, also I've been sworn to secrecy. MikeV would kill me if...oops!

garfielduk
#179 posted by
garfielduk
on Jun 06, 2012

nudge nudge wink wink say no more

CDNz1
#180 posted by
CDNz1
on Jun 06, 2012

Lalalalalalalalala...

zoot aloors
#181 posted by
zoot aloors
on Jun 06, 2012

NewJerseyNewJerseyNewJerseyNewJerseyNewJersey!!!

garfielduk
#182 posted by
garfielduk
on Jun 06, 2012

I don't care, I don't care

info261
#183 posted by
info261
on Jun 11, 2012

Fake Encores don't bother me at all.  Yes it's theatrics but it's fine.  in some cases the Encore is used for someone in the band to change into some niffty stage clothing or get a stage prop.  Rob Halford from judas Priest uses the encore as a chance to ge out the old motercycle for Hell Bent for Leather.  H from Marillion uses the encore as a chnace to change into a suite for The Invisible Man.  Also, sometimes some songs sound great as openers while others are great as a set closer.  The planned encore gives the chance to hear two set openers and two set closers.  All in all, it's really just all good fun.

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