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Another day, another public fight between two artists. But what makes this one different is the combatants: Madonna and Deadmau5. I mean, in a million years I could not imagine a more bizarre duo or issue. 

Joel Zimmerman, aka Deadmau5, takes issue with Madonna exclaiming at a concert “How many people in this crowd have seen Molly?” a slang reference to the drug MDMA, and that also being the inspiration behind her new album title, MDNA.

He explains he’s not pro or anti drug use, but more responsibility, and making drug references to impressionable young people is irresponsible, in his opinion.  And that is, as we’ve heard before – because Madonna is a role model.

I guess never mind that Madonna is an adult and a mother and should really be past the club drug days, this discussion that ended up on twitter brought up this thorny of thorny subjects again, and that being:


SHOULD ENTERTAINERS BE ROLE MODELS?
WHAT ROLE CAN ARTISTS PLAY IN THE WORLD?

I always find this a tricky subject, that being the separation of artist from their art. But the fact that it never goes away tells me we do at least have some expectations. 

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krib
#1 posted by
krib
on Mar 28, 2012

Is this the blog for your show, Lisa? There's no indication that it's Appetite for Distraction here, only the posted by part with your name on it.

Brian Cauley
#2 posted by
Brian Cauley
on Mar 28, 2012

i think, whether or not they want to be, artists are role models. we habitually look to others publicly doing things we love and, resultantly, try to emulate their entire life-style or parts of their life-style.

krib
#3 posted by
krib
on Mar 28, 2012

oh wait, there's a tag at the top.

Sometimes making the switch between shows is a challenge

laurenelizabeth
#4 posted by
laurenelizabeth
on Mar 28, 2012

Any person who is followed by young people (like a celebrity), is a parent or who works with young people is a role model to them whether they like it or not and should behave accordingly. I think role models good and bad can have a profound impact on kids and teenagers.

zammachus
#5 posted by
zammachus
on Mar 28, 2012

Woo! Going to see Bahamas and The Weather Station in Ottawa on the 12th! Then down to Toronto for StW on the 13th.

Geez... That's gonna be a busy week...

marie_curious
#6 posted by
marie_curious
on Mar 28, 2012

I don't put a lot of stock into anything Madonna says or does. It seems like she's just trying like hell to prove she can still be controversial. I mostly find her attempts boring and, quite frankly, pathetic. She hasn't done anything comparably controversial since her book about sex came out TWENTY YEARS AGO.

zoot aloors
#7 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 28, 2012

It depends if Charlie Sheen is considered a 'Role Model' too, or is he a 'cautionary tale'? Because they certainly serve their purpose to educate our youth, too.

Madonna can name her album after a drug, but it is pretty weaksauce to glorify designer drugs, Deadmaus has had a front-row seat for ten years to watch what idiots will do for a cheap buzz; in his audiences.

garfielduk
#8 posted by
garfielduk
on Mar 28, 2012

I couldn't tell you the last time I took any notice in anything Madonna had to say

zammachus
#9 posted by
zammachus
on Mar 28, 2012

Speaking of role models, how about those made out of plastic?

Mattel will be producing a bald Barbie for children with cancer after nearly 35,000 people signed this petition.

http://www.change.org/petitions/mattel-inc-please-make-a-beautiful-and-bald-barbie

KristaMark
#10 posted by
KristaMark
on Mar 28, 2012

@zammachus    

I'm SO torn that STW show on the 13th is the same night as YukonBlonde/LV.  Although I think YB might win this time....

zammachus
#11 posted by
zammachus
on Mar 28, 2012

Krista

But if you come to StW you could hang out with BWill and myself...

zoot aloors
#12 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 28, 2012

@ Garf, you know? not yet, man. She's still a huge star. Her profile isn't quite the heady 1980's but she still has a billion fans.

alsace lorraine
#13 posted by
alsace lorraine
on Mar 28, 2012

@Lisa. Madonna adopted a kid with a living parent, which rubs me the wrong way.

krib
#14 posted by
krib
on Mar 28, 2012

Lana posted a link to Madonna's new video. It seems to me that it's a desperate cry for help.

She's so worried about staying "relevant" and in the spotlight that she's now a parody of herself, which is pretty sad because she was so blatantly hollow before - how do you sink below that? She seems to always find a way.

KristaMark
#15 posted by
KristaMark
on Mar 28, 2012

@zammachus   I know!  But Marie_C is going to YB too!

Christine McAvoy
#16 posted by
Christine McAvoy
on Mar 28, 2012

@Krista i support that choice. STW will be back, but YB ANNNNND LV? thumbs up.

 

Or you guys can do what I do, and run between shows.

krib
#17 posted by
krib
on Mar 28, 2012

remember when Sinead O'Connor tore up the picture of the pope on SNL? No? Well, it was a long time ago. When that happened, it was while Madonna was flogging that whole "look at how controversial I am" Sex thing. Here's some interested stuff from Wikipedia about that. Note that Sinead O'Connor said almost the same thing as Deadmau5, somewhere around 20 years ago. Once desperate for attention, always desperate for attention, I guess...

 

On Madonna's next appearance on SNL (on an episode hosted by Harvey Keitel), after singing "Bad Girl", she held up a photo of Joey Buttafuoco[31] and, saying "fight the real enemy", tore it up. Madonna also roundly attacked O'Connor in the press for the incident, telling the Irish Times: "I think there is a better way to present her ideas rather than ripping up an image that means a lot to other people." She added, "If she is against the Roman Catholic Church and she has a problem with them, I think she should talk about it."[32] The New York Times called it "professional jealousy" and wrote that: "After Madonna had herself gowned, harnessed, strapped down and fully stripped to promote her album Erotica and her book Sex, O'Connor stole the spotlight with one photograph of a fully clothed man. But the other vilification that descended on O'Connor showed she had struck a nerve."[33] Bob Guccione, Jr. in a 1993 SPIN editorial was adamant in his defense of O'Connor, writing, "...Madonna savaged her in the press, obviously to fuel publicity for Sex and sales of her new album, Erotica .... But when the Sinead controversy threatened to siphon some of the attention from the impending release of Sex, Madonna conveniently found religion again..."[32] In November 1991, a year prior to the incident, O'Connor had told Spin Magazine: "Madonna is probably the hugest role model for women in America. There's a woman who people look up to as being a woman who campaigns for women's rights. A woman who in an abusive way towards me, said that I look like I had a run in with a lawnmower and that I was about as sexy as a Venetian blind. Now there's the woman that America looks up to as being a campaigner for women, slagging off another woman..."[

KristaMark
#18 posted by
KristaMark
on Mar 28, 2012

@Christine    My thoughts exactly!  

I'm DYING to see this YB/LV tour. Its been on my radar since January. 

zoot aloors
#19 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 28, 2012

I'm personally relieved that deadmaus wants to squash it, and push the anti-drug message, now that's a role model!

That's not to say Deadmaus is an angel either! have yoou seen his interview with Joe Rogan? haha He gets pretty drunk on air!

ad_verse
#20 posted by
ad_verse
on Mar 28, 2012

Speaking of NONtroversial: now Dan Mangan is a role model!

Lisa Christiansen
#21 posted by
Lisa Christiansen
on Mar 28, 2012

@alsace - isn't that how it usually happens?

zammachus
#22 posted by
zammachus
on Mar 28, 2012

Krista

Umm...  That's supposed to be a reason to go TO that show?

 

 

 

Kidding. Escher's great. :)

marie_curious
#23 posted by
marie_curious
on Mar 28, 2012

@Zammy, @Krista: The simple solution is that Said the Whale will be playing Hamilton on April 12. I'm catching that show and then Going to see Library Voices/Yukon Blonde the next night.

KristaMark
#24 posted by
KristaMark
on Mar 28, 2012

@Marie     Okay, you've got the winning solution!  Dont think I can do the 12th  :(

marie_curious
#25 posted by
marie_curious
on Mar 28, 2012

@Zammy: ... You're soooooo funny.

alsace lorraine
#26 posted by
alsace lorraine
on Mar 28, 2012

@Lisa, sadly yes, many adoptions of "orphans" from 3rd world countries are of children who have parents.

flagpole music
#27 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 28, 2012

hey, Lis - i'm around but it's cutting in & out again.  booo:(if i don't post much it's not because it's not interesting. it just seems that everything else I do on the computer makes the player cut out. I don't think it's you guys because i've been ok all along. We just switched to Time/Warner from AT&T. I think it's that. 

zammachus
#28 posted by
zammachus
on Mar 28, 2012

Escher

Strange... You're not laughing. You should be laughing.

Lisa Christiansen
#29 posted by
Lisa Christiansen
on Mar 28, 2012

@flagpole - sad face.

garfielduk
#30 posted by
garfielduk
on Mar 28, 2012

Hmmmm, should I open up the beer we got for TheIceman?

 

Chopz87
#31 posted by
Chopz87
on Mar 28, 2012

I got here late, what happened wth Madonna?

KristaMark
#32 posted by
KristaMark
on Mar 28, 2012

@marie_c 

I'm still trying to make the plan to come to the city on the 13th. At this point its a 75% chance. (Have to coordinate work, my kid, and $$)...but I REALLY WANT TO!!!!

marie_curious
#33 posted by
marie_curious
on Mar 28, 2012

@Zammy: I'm laughing on the underside.

KristaMark
#34 posted by
KristaMark
on Mar 28, 2012

@Garfield     Is the Iceman in the UK??

zammachus
#35 posted by
zammachus
on Mar 28, 2012

Escher

You're giving me bum laughs?

krib
#36 posted by
krib
on Mar 28, 2012

bum laughs? that's a new one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWBUl7oT9sA 

garfielduk
#37 posted by
garfielduk
on Mar 28, 2012

@Krista #34, not that I know, it's the beer I still owe him for rent from last year

zammachus
#38 posted by
zammachus
on Mar 28, 2012

Krib

I'm always original.

Old Abe
#39 posted by
Old Abe
on Mar 28, 2012

@chopz - See Lisa's blog post above.

Chopz87
#40 posted by
Chopz87
on Mar 28, 2012

@ Old Abe - Thanks

zoot aloors
#41 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 28, 2012

Should Entertainers Be Role Models?

If carneys are considered entertainers, then, no.

zammachus
#42 posted by
zammachus
on Mar 28, 2012

Zoot

I disagree. They're examples of what not to do with your life.

Unless you like the taste of fresh chicken heads...

zoot aloors
#43 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 28, 2012

...haha chicken heads is a euphemism for drugged out whores so, haha!

KristaMark
#44 posted by
KristaMark
on Mar 28, 2012

@GarfUK   oh i see...just thought it would be cool to hear of R3 meet ups happening in the UK

zammachus
#45 posted by
zammachus
on Mar 28, 2012

Zoot

Hi-o

When was the last time anyone what entertained by a carnie?

garfielduk
#46 posted by
garfielduk
on Mar 28, 2012

@Krista, not yet, sorry

 

garfielduk
#47 posted by
garfielduk
on Mar 28, 2012

ooh this is a nice beer

zoot aloors
#48 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 28, 2012

When was the last time anyone what entertained by a carnie?

http://www.mojomovie.com/download-carny-movie-6128.html

krib
#49 posted by
krib
on Mar 28, 2012

so, the player still says Corb Lund for me. I even restarted the browser.

who is this? this chanting/singing sound that sounds like Dolores O'Riordan?

KristaMark
#50 posted by
KristaMark
on Mar 28, 2012

Must wrap up my day now. And like GarfieldUK....go have a BEER!

garfielduk
#51 posted by
garfielduk
on Mar 28, 2012

@krib KIBOHO ELFIN SADDLE 

PeanutButter
#52 posted by
PeanutButter
on Mar 28, 2012

I am really digging this song!

Backwater Brewery
#53 posted by
Backwater Brewery
on Mar 28, 2012

@ Gargfield, whatcha sippin on?

zoot aloors
#54 posted by
zoot aloors
on Mar 28, 2012

@ krib, bizarrely, my player was stuck on Corb Lund last week, it's running well today though...

marie_curious
#55 posted by
marie_curious
on Mar 28, 2012

Kiboho by Elfin Saddle

zammachus
#56 posted by
zammachus
on Mar 28, 2012

Peanut Butter

If you were referring to Sentimental Dishes, I'm pretty sure PS I Love You is giving it away for free...

garfielduk
#57 posted by
garfielduk
on Mar 28, 2012

@Backwater, it's called Stout for the count from a local micro brewery Beer range poster

krib
#58 posted by
krib
on Mar 28, 2012

thanks

zammachus
#59 posted by
zammachus
on Mar 28, 2012

http://soundcloud.com/paper-bag-records/ps-i-love-you-princess-towers

Sorry. I was wrong. Sentimental Dishes was the last track they gave away. Only 1000 DLs available. All gone now. So now they're offering Princess Towers.

PeanutButter
#60 posted by
PeanutButter
on Mar 28, 2012

@Zammachus, I was referring to Elfin Saddle, but the link to PS is great too!

TheRadioHead
#61 posted by
TheRadioHead
on Mar 28, 2012

I can't stay, just swooping in to say adults/parents should be the role models and be a barrier between kids and pop culture pap.

Yes I know it's hard.  It starts by having basically a TV free home, and no computers in kid's rooms. My daughter in law is a grade school music teacher, and has withdrawn from Facebook because she was getting friend requests from 8 year olds.  WTF is up with that?

There's lots and lots of stuff of value out there as an alternative, but adults have to get it together.

 

Bet you're glad I wasn't your mom.

Lisa Christiansen
#62 posted by
Lisa Christiansen
on Mar 28, 2012

@TheRadiohead - I know a lot of people who have tried this out, only to find their kids sneeking off to friends to go on a computer or watch tv. I sometimes feel they have an even greater obsession.

CDNz1
#63 posted by
CDNz1
on Mar 28, 2012

@TRH [61] - WORD!

krib
#64 posted by
krib
on Mar 28, 2012

TRH,

you're old :P there was none of that to worry about, even with your kids

Mine weren't allowed to join FB until they were 13. They complained a lot about friends already being on, but I didn't budge on that. And they're friends with me on FB, which is really kind of a double-edged sword because now I have to be more careful about what I say :-)

fictionjunkie
#65 posted by
fictionjunkie
on Mar 28, 2012

I was thinking that parents should maybe act as moderators - I think anyone in pop culture needs to be aware of themselves and that they will be a role model whether or not that is their intention or desire. Banning kids from media isn't really a solution because as you say Lisa, they sneak off and access it somewhere else (*raises hand as guilty party). I think you have to be aware of who your kids idolize and make sure that you temper it with some reality checks. That said I have a 3 year old so ask me again in 10 years to see if I managed to parent as well in real life as I am pretending to on the internet.

I was a Girl Guide/Pathfinder leader for many years and have had girls as Facebook friends, which does make me aware of what I am posting there since they will be seeing it (not that I was anyone's role model but just in case).

krib
#66 posted by
krib
on Mar 28, 2012

TV, I guess, but it's been around for ages. We have no TV in the house, but too much connectivity to the outside world; too many computers. I have a game addict son who spends too much time playing online games. It's hard to fight.

I think I'll maybe take them out camping this year for a while, with no electronics or anything.

zammachus
#67 posted by
zammachus
on Mar 28, 2012

OFF-TOPIC

Ever wondered how homeopathy works?

http://www.howdoeshomeopathywork.com/

Make sure you read the footer. Great site.

krib
#68 posted by
krib
on Mar 28, 2012

Zam,

you're a skeptic, are you?

darbarspecial
#69 posted by
darbarspecial
on Mar 28, 2012

I agree with a lot of what The Radiohead is saying. I think a bigger part of the equation is having discussions with your kids on what they are seeing and hearing. Talking about how you feel about it and asking what they feel about it. I discovered as a parent, we all have different boundaries. What is acceptable to me isn't to another parent and vice versa. Yes my son was exposed to things at friend's houses that I wouldn't let him have at home, but at least it was in small doses. And we had open discussions on it. Well at least as far as I know.

zammachus
#70 posted by
zammachus
on Mar 28, 2012

Krib

Yep. 15 years of being taught to think critically has lead to that.

darbarspecial
#71 posted by
darbarspecial
on Mar 28, 2012

I volunteered out at a church camp for quite a few years and got a couple facebook requests from kids from camp. I wasn't comfortable with that and just ignored the requests.

124th Street Beat
#72 posted by
124th Street Beat
on Mar 28, 2012

@Radiohead

Great post, couldn't agree more- but since your children don't live in a vacuum/ideal world, don't you think that no matter what you do, they are still going to find celebrities that they see as role models? Don't you think you need take to take steps  to help them process what they are seeing (like darbar just posted)?

It would be nice that in a perfect world celebrities realized that they are going to be role models, whether they like it or not, and act accordingly (what ever that might mean/be). It is just part of their job and suck it up. 

That being said, George Clooney is totally my role model (minus the human models constantly hanging off of his arms)- that man really puts his money where his mouth is, and if I had millions I would do that too. Now I just need to make millions.

krib
#73 posted by
krib
on Mar 28, 2012

hmm...interesting.

Ever read any Suzuki? He talks about science a lot. A lot about how little we actually know.

 

zammachus
#74 posted by
zammachus
on Mar 28, 2012

Krib

Nope.

Benoit from Ottawa
#75 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Mar 28, 2012

Off subject, a perhaps long yet very interesting series of time wasters: http://www.mnn.com/lifestyle/arts-culture/photos/10-of-the-worlds-biggest-unsolved-mysteries/go-figure 

(These don't disappoint.)

zammachus
#76 posted by
zammachus
on Mar 28, 2012

Dinner!

garfielduk
#77 posted by
garfielduk
on Mar 28, 2012

repeat post #76 8 times

 

Batman

kirkofdoom
#78 posted by
kirkofdoom
on Mar 28, 2012

nothing makes me not read an article faster than having to "flip" through 10 pages.

this isn't 1997 AOL, websites. put all your shit on one page.

darbarspecial
#79 posted by
darbarspecial
on Mar 28, 2012

I didn't find it so strange kids on facebook. I just didn't want those kids knowing other sides to my life and feeling like I couldn't post what I wanted on there. I am sure you must get that part of it Lisa. hehe

krib
#80 posted by
krib
on Mar 28, 2012

I had some friend requests from kids I know. I accepted and then stuck them in a circle where my posts don't show up in their news feed.

Or didn't. you never know with Facebook.

Immaterial now as my own kids are on, and I can't really block them seeing my stuff and expect that I should be able to see theirs, so...I have to temper the dirty jokes now

Benoit from Ottawa
#81 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Mar 28, 2012

Entertainers being role models: Oh yeah it would be niiiiiice, but it's just not so: sure, some are good models, but they are 1) human and thus fallible, and so not models, and 2) not creatures that exist from the outside-in. Even though they constantly present their outside to the public, that persona is not what they are. We have to let them exist as private people despite their public personas.

So it's naive to think that they either are, or should be*, role models.

It is, however, the parents' values that, initially, will shape the kid's basic tastes (before acquisition of more and more independence); that is probably the most certain influence a parent can have on their child, because once the kid starts becoming independent, he or she will go "yeah, sure" in acquiescing with what parents say, but will do what he or she sees fit with friends and all. Self-regulation.

So it's in the previous years, all those previous years, that the parent can help build what the kid will use, or not, by him or herself, away from home.

 

*Should, should, should -- therefore aren't.

 

(I'm not sure how clear the above is; posting anyway)

krib
#82 posted by
krib
on Mar 28, 2012

I dunno, I think with Madonna there is no actual core. Her questionable public persona is all that she is

Benoit from Ottawa
#83 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Mar 28, 2012

78: oooooooh, cranky!

Benoit from Ottawa
#84 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Mar 28, 2012

krib, your 82 almost made me do something disgusting (without a kleenex) all over my keyboard!

Benoit from Ottawa
#85 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Mar 28, 2012

krib, hah! Guy comes out as gay on Facebook, and his friends are so cool some of them comment on the crappy design of his page.

http://www.happyplace.com/15065/guy-comes-out-of-closet-on-facebook-to-friends-entirely-too-geeky-to-care

krib
#86 posted by
krib
on Mar 28, 2012

now THAT was funny! I must share. An agile coming out blog site design

Benoit from Ottawa
#87 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Mar 28, 2012

I think some of the worries having to do with Facebook and other social sites' pictures and info, is that there are now programs that can easily put together automatically a dossier of data collected from many sources; integrate the use of good facial recognition software, and you can have so much info on a person, so easily... Now, Apple smartphones incorporate automatic, hidden GPS tracking (cell tower), not to mention real detailed GPS tracking...*

It's the potential exposure to dubious people, some of whom are professional identity thieves

 

*I saw a demonstration done, a few weeks back, where a primary pupil's school was found, her home, as well as the part of the public park where she usually hangs out.

124th Street Beat
#88 posted by
124th Street Beat
on Mar 28, 2012

I really need to listen to more Woodpigeon.

alsace lorraine
#89 posted by
alsace lorraine
on Mar 28, 2012

@124th St, Ever time I hear that song, I think the same thing. It is just such a beautiful song.

krib
#90 posted by
krib
on Mar 28, 2012

124th

Die Stadt Muzikanten is an amazing album

flagpole music
#91 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 28, 2012

hey - my stream is working again!  hi all!!

nvp
#92 posted by
nvp
on Mar 28, 2012

SHOULD ENTERTAINERS BE ROLE MODELS?

well ..  it depends on the role.  mostly no.  but i you want to be an entertainer .. maybe.

WHAT ROLE CAN ARTISTS PLAY IN THE WORLD?

they should be themselves.  and their fans should be themselves.

flagpole music
#93 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 28, 2012

I used to be a nanny & am FB friends with the 2 boys I took care of.  They're grown-ups now (one of them is a dad, which makes me feel about 100) so I don't think my shocking them is an issue.  

I actually send the older ones to shows. He harrassed Luke & Melissa via text for me once, in NYC

krib
#94 posted by
krib
on Mar 28, 2012

who is this? sounds like a female Yukon Blonde

krib
#95 posted by
krib
on Mar 28, 2012

oh yeah! now that piano riff is in my head, and the line "good things come to those who hate"

I think it's Piano Pieces for Adult Beginners

alsace lorraine
#96 posted by
alsace lorraine
on Mar 28, 2012

@Lisa. Boo Hoo Hoo is such an awesome song. Her voice is great.

krib
#97 posted by
krib
on Mar 28, 2012

geez, she might rival Rachel Nagy. They sound a lot like the Detroit Cobras, come to think of it

iamRobSmith
#98 posted by
iamRobSmith
on Mar 28, 2012

I said it on Grants show and I'll say it again: When she bellows out the "I would leave it all behind" line - I mean come on.  SEEEEEEXY!

Benoit from Ottawa
#99 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Mar 28, 2012

3rd time today*, Lisa! It's an excellent song, but people are playing the hell out of it.

 

 

* Maybe some coordination could be done? I can't actually conceive of how it would be possible, but it's a fact that some songs get overplayed here -- and then some other songs get overplayed up the yin yang.

iamRobSmith
#100 posted by
iamRobSmith
on Mar 28, 2012

here it comes.....

Benoit from Ottawa
#101 posted by
Benoit from Ottawa
on Mar 28, 2012

99: re Boo Hoo

iamRobSmith
#102 posted by
iamRobSmith
on Mar 28, 2012

*sigh

iamRobSmith
#103 posted by
iamRobSmith
on Mar 28, 2012

aaaand random blog drop-in comment over - I'm out!

flagpole music
#104 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 28, 2012

I like her & I think there's no underestimating her voice but I don't think she's doing anything I didnt hear Susan Tedeschi doing  10-12 years ago. & still. There's plenty of room for both of them tho & I'm always happy to hear a good bluesy belter.

I directed DarBars to Alabama Shakes the other day. some of you might dig her/them also.

flagpole music
#105 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 28, 2012

the back up on this (my feed says Dale Murray) sounds very Bangles:)

CDNz1
#106 posted by
CDNz1
on Mar 28, 2012

Man, do I ever like this Dale Murray - Assess The Mess

flagpole music
#107 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 28, 2012

i should've mentioned that I too dig the Dale Murray tune, with the groovy back ups singers.

CDNz1
#108 posted by
CDNz1
on Mar 28, 2012

...aaaaand this Karkwa - Le Pyromane

Two beauties in a row!

flagpole music
#109 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 28, 2012

dammit.  americana just posted on FB. Earl Scruggs passed away.  dammit. he was 88 so a life well lived but boy what a legend.  I hate to hear that.

flagpole music
#110 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 28, 2012

hey, Lisa - play some BROOD or something with a banjo for Earl, won't ya:)

CDNz1
#111 posted by
CDNz1
on Mar 28, 2012

@Lisa - Are perhaps YOU attending NXNE? Who will be the R3 West Coast Host?

flagpole music
#112 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 28, 2012

ha- it's pretty much down to a coin toss there. unless one of the weekend/filler boys heads out

124th Street Beat
#113 posted by
124th Street Beat
on Mar 28, 2012

@109

That is depressing, I kind of thought he was going to live forever, like Leonard Cohen and Fidel Castro. Some people just seem too tough and part of our culture to ever die. I felt that way about Johnny Cash as well, still a little in denial that he is even dead...

 

flagpole music
#114 posted by
flagpole music
on Mar 28, 2012

@124th - yeah. it's weird to think about a world without folk like that in it. I grew up around the Opry)on radio & tv), with my grandparents listening.

But 88 is a lot of good years. easier to hear than young people going.  musicjoy was just saying on FB about when she realized he was the Beverly Hillbillies guy (along with Flatt)

cathyort
#115 posted by
cathyort
on Mar 28, 2012

#lisac@nxne!

TheRadioHead
#116 posted by
TheRadioHead
on Mar 28, 2012

I'm finally back, and swooping in yet again even though the convo is over.

I am not THAT old, I did have to deal with this stuff with my kids.  I had their CPU's locked in my trunk of my car more than once when I found them doing stuff they were not supposed to be doing on them.  I didn't know how to lock them off the computer, but I sure knew how to keep my car keys out of their hands. 

 

It's hard...I know kids try to find their way around it...and you are always the bad guy.  But you know the secret to parenting?  The more firmly you take control, the less often you actually have to do it.  Them just knowing you will do it is enough. 

 

 

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