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Since the 1800s and the phonograph, through the advent of LPs in the 30s, the cassette in the 60s, CD players in the 80s to mp3s in the 90s, humankind has historically found a way to make our music-listening experience more and more bland.

So much so, that ardent audiophiles are turning back to vinyl LPs, citing the lack of dynamic range in modern digital recording (and playback).

Neil Young shows Letterman his Pono: A new high-fidelity music player and iTunes-style music service that will sell 192kHz/24-bit audio files — much higher sound quality than CDs or MP3s.

How important is audio fidelity? Will you buy a Pono?

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jmikelittle
#1 posted by
jmikelittle
on Oct 03, 2012

Hi everyone, it's great to hear Craig's high-quality voice.

 

Fidelity is not a huge deal for me...for music that is. I'm generally really happy with 128 and up

Sless
#2 posted by
Sless
on Oct 03, 2012

Good morning!

 

Did I miss the Wenzdee song?!

 

Damn!

StephRamsahai
#3 posted by
StephRamsahai
on Oct 03, 2012

Good morning!

I barely notice fidelity to be perfectly honest. I grew up listening to cassettes and now we listen to digital files which do sound a lot better. So really, I'm okay with the change. Maybe if I knew more about music production I'd understand the importance of fidelity more but I don't so... bring on the mp3s!

CDNz1
#4 posted by
CDNz1
on Oct 03, 2012

WENZDEE!!!

StephRamsahai
#5 posted by
StephRamsahai
on Oct 03, 2012

@Sless - I don't think he's sung the Wenzdee song yet... but I could be wrong. I'm half asleep.

Craig Norris
#6 posted by
Craig Norris
on Oct 03, 2012

I have already sung the Wednesday song.

Thanks for listening.

EP
#7 posted by
EP
on Oct 03, 2012

happy Wenzdee!

Craig Norris
#8 posted by
Craig Norris
on Oct 03, 2012

I appreciate that you're admitting that sonic quality isn't as important to you! Let's see where this goes when more listeners show up!

StephRamsahai
#9 posted by
StephRamsahai
on Oct 03, 2012

@Craig - Haaahaha! I'm sorry! I uh... you know... no coffee... ahhh I got nothing. 

StephRamsahai
#10 posted by
StephRamsahai
on Oct 03, 2012

re: 3 - I should say that I don't think I've ever listened to music in a super high quality way so maybe I just don't know what it sounds like? Maybe if I heard the highest of qualities I'd change my opinion on fidelity (the sound kind.. not the loyalty kind). Who knows!

MikeV
#11 posted by
MikeV
on Oct 03, 2012

Good Morning

Is this where I can return my recalled beef? 

EP
#12 posted by
EP
on Oct 03, 2012

I was actually thinking of stepping back in time and getting a record player.  I would buy vinyl for some records, and digital for the others. (this way, I dont have physical cd's cluttering my space)

StephRamsahai
#13 posted by
StephRamsahai
on Oct 03, 2012

@Mike - Sure, I'll take it. I'm sure if I cook it enough it'll be fine...

MikeV
#14 posted by
MikeV
on Oct 03, 2012

Wow tough room.

 

To answer your question I would love to try a Pono. 

CDNz1
#15 posted by
CDNz1
on Oct 03, 2012

Is sonic quality important? YES! I've always had good stereo equipment, I want to hear every little sound.

Will I buy a Pono? Most likely not.

laurenelizabeth
#16 posted by
laurenelizabeth
on Oct 03, 2012

I like listening to vinyls ... sound quality isn't super important to me, just good music!

MikeV
#17 posted by
MikeV
on Oct 03, 2012

Here is a fact. If you play vinyl siding on your turntable it will play Don Henley songs.

MikeV
#18 posted by
MikeV
on Oct 03, 2012

Okay back to class. Later folks.

stevierayk
#19 posted by
stevierayk
on Oct 03, 2012

Is audio quality important to me? – yes, to a fault.

Will I buy a pony? I’d love a pony but I have nowhere to board it. I’d call him Buddy

jmikelittle
#20 posted by
jmikelittle
on Oct 03, 2012

Yeah, I think the marginal utility of investing in really good equipment and good codecs is rather limited. There are a lot of variables involved in playback, what player, equipment and levels you're using and maybe more. Not to mention, the majority of people (I would assume) use portable music players. I use my phone and I have to fit all my music into 16gb. I could either put few really good quality files on there, or many lower quality ones. To me, it's a no-brainer, I go with more files of worse quality. In face I think Zune down-converts my music if it's too large so that it'll fit. 

StephRamsahai
#21 posted by
StephRamsahai
on Oct 03, 2012

Make a New Dance Up sounds weird... is Craig screwing with the fidelity!? I'M NOTICING IT!

pharm112
#22 posted by
pharm112
on Oct 03, 2012

Speaking as an old timer, I don't miss vinyl records at all.  Although high end vinyl recordings may produce better audio quality than digital media, the reality is that the mass produced vinyl recordings that were our only option back in the day for the most part really sucked.  What I remember most about vinyl are the skips, pops, and background noise, not to mention scratches, warpage, and lack of portability.  I'll take an mp3 any day, thank you very much!

StephRamsahai
#23 posted by
StephRamsahai
on Oct 03, 2012

Oh it was live... well that made me REALLY not want to see Hey Ocean live ever... 

jmikelittle
#24 posted by
jmikelittle
on Oct 03, 2012

Arg, Kidcauley made me miss the Eight and a Half concert here in Ottawa at Zaphods. Never forgive, never forget. I'm glad she left, etc, etc

 

EP
#25 posted by
EP
on Oct 03, 2012

btw,  the song titles feature does not seem to be working on the shoutcast stream. it has been this way for a long while.... any fixes in the works?

erinev
#26 posted by
erinev
on Oct 03, 2012

woah mike and jeremy?!

marie_curious
#27 posted by
marie_curious
on Oct 03, 2012

I don't really notice a quality difference in my Mp3s versus my LPs and CDs. The benefits of physical media I feel are mostly about interaction with the format: Studying the artwork and inserts and listening from beginning to end, as opposed to listening to single tracks on random. Pono wouldn't really be my thing.

StephRamsahai
#28 posted by
StephRamsahai
on Oct 03, 2012

I think I'd be interested in hearing the difference between listening to my iPod and listening to Pono, but I likely wouldn't invest in one.

Craig Norris
#29 posted by
Craig Norris
on Oct 03, 2012

@stevierayk [19] Funny guy.

stevierayk
#30 posted by
stevierayk
on Oct 03, 2012

@craig - ha.

Craig Norris
#31 posted by
Craig Norris
on Oct 03, 2012

@pharm112 [22] I agree. And yet, a generation has found a way to wax nostalgic about vinyl and romanticize its shortcomings.

That said, it does sound cool.

StephRamsahai
#32 posted by
StephRamsahai
on Oct 03, 2012

This song (Barbra by Modernettes) makes me wanna go surfing real bad. Real bad!

Sless
#33 posted by
Sless
on Oct 03, 2012

Yeah @erinev

Mike and I like to dance!

carrieg
#34 posted by
carrieg
on Oct 03, 2012

I recall Neil Young being played on our reel to reel. I am old. 

I also remember going to buy stereo equipment and being taken into the 'sound room' at A&B sound.....do those exist anymore?

I am currently listening to this show, on a laptop....Craig sounds like he's broadcasting from a tin can...far, far away.

 

@Craig - please play some Neil Young

jmikelittle
#35 posted by
jmikelittle
on Oct 03, 2012

Sless and I had a breakfast date this morning listening to craig sing the wednesday song. It was really great. I should have got him to make me coffee though. 

Craig Norris
#36 posted by
Craig Norris
on Oct 03, 2012

@carrieg [34] There is some Neil Young on the way.

erinev
#37 posted by
erinev
on Oct 03, 2012

@ Craig- we actually heard the Wenzdee song at Oktoberfest last weekend..

StephRamsahai
#38 posted by
StephRamsahai
on Oct 03, 2012

This new Tegan & Sara song reminds me of Avril Lavigne......

Old Abe
#39 posted by
Old Abe
on Oct 03, 2012

During the past year I have been going in reverse for Audio Fedelity.  Buyibg heaps of Vinyl, a turntabe, a 70's amp and found a pair of Paradigm speakers (for $10!) at a yardsale.  I LOVE THE OLD SOUND!

Craig Norris
#40 posted by
Craig Norris
on Oct 03, 2012

@erinev [37] Beg pardon?!?

Seems like someone owes The Craigger some royalties.

Craig Norris
#41 posted by
Craig Norris
on Oct 03, 2012

@Old Abe [39] I think you should spring for a newer computer keyboard, though.

erinev
#42 posted by
erinev
on Oct 03, 2012

@ craig- yeah, jmikelittle and i were minding our own business, drinking pumpkin beer, when all of the sudden... the band was playing it!

Old Abe
#43 posted by
Old Abe
on Oct 03, 2012

@Craig, That's what I was thinking.

jmikelittle
#44 posted by
jmikelittle
on Oct 03, 2012

Einz, zwei, drei, WENZZZDAAAAAAI. zigga zagga zigga zagga hoi hoi hoi

StephRamsahai
#45 posted by
StephRamsahai
on Oct 03, 2012

Man I can't wait for Oktoberfest this weekend. Kitchener at this time of the year is so kick ass.

jmikelittle
#46 posted by
jmikelittle
on Oct 03, 2012

Agreed Steph, I'm coming home to Cambridge to take part, der gemuklichkeit

StephRamsahai
#47 posted by
StephRamsahai
on Oct 03, 2012

@jmikelittle - Nice! Unfortunately the only night that worked out for the majority of my friends is this Sunday and a buddy got free tickets to Rocktoberfest. It sucks only because it's I Mother Earth. It'll still be a great time though with lots of beer and Jager! Woooo!

Shonica
#48 posted by
Shonica
on Oct 03, 2012

Good Morning!

StephRamsahai
#49 posted by
StephRamsahai
on Oct 03, 2012

Wow... I love this song. Haven't heard it in soooo long!

MikeV
#50 posted by
MikeV
on Oct 03, 2012

stevierayk eats ponies. 

stevierayk
#51 posted by
stevierayk
on Oct 03, 2012

@MikeV -only once they stop winning races.

Craig Norris
#52 posted by
Craig Norris
on Oct 03, 2012

@MikeV [50] Not whole.

hotpatch
#53 posted by
hotpatch
on Oct 03, 2012

for sure YES..Neil Young is brilliant and will have success with this

my good friend down the street is a double E (Electrical Engineer). he built a sound system from the ground up..literally, using vacume tubes, a seperate signal path and amplifier for each channel. he calibrated each and every part to maximize sound quality, custom built speakers, the whole 9 yards, he even has a specialized piece of equipment that cleans vinyl, it takes up half of his basement; add a $6,000 turn table and 6,000 classic recordings on vinyl and you're in tunes heaven.

If you hear this system you will realize how bad sound quality has gotten in the digital age, it greatly diminishes the artistry of the music.

 

 

I can't afford to replicate that but would love to have ha

]You will hear much more depth,

I appreciate the artistry of the musicians,

 

StephRamsahai
#54 posted by
StephRamsahai
on Oct 03, 2012

@Mike/Craig [52] - Unless it's a miniature pony.

hotpatch
#55 posted by
hotpatch
on Oct 03, 2012

(scroll down for more incoherent grumblings)

carrieg
#56 posted by
carrieg
on Oct 03, 2012

@hotpatch [53] that's pretty cool - is he also a musician?

 

@erinev [42] did they say anything after playing the song?

StephRamsahai
#57 posted by
StephRamsahai
on Oct 03, 2012

LOL. Bible belt... well....if you know the area....

daa1982
#58 posted by
daa1982
on Oct 03, 2012

@Hotpatch, I only scroll down for incoherent mumblings.

stevierayk
#59 posted by
stevierayk
on Oct 03, 2012

I guess my problem with digital music is that we’re still using a format that was developed in the 80’s. A digital format from the 80’s……..Would we all still be happy playing an Atari over an Xbox or rewinding our Beta tapes before we return them…..or using a landline…….how about SD television.

I’m not saying that CDs suck, I’m just asking for some progress.

EricR
#60 posted by
EricR
on Oct 03, 2012

@StevieRayK -- I think that progress came in the formats of SACD and other attempts at high-def audio ... but like other doomed formats, the companies making them tried to keep the tech secret to force the market to buy their players.  That never goes well (see: HD-DVD).

So, they've tried, but much like blu-ray players today, the mass market doesn't seem to be ready to buy new 'everything' (player, speakers, etc.) to listen to new music ... especially when it means having to (re-)buy all of that music to hear it in better quality.

EricR
#61 posted by
EricR
on Oct 03, 2012

@StevieRayK -- that said, I do totally agree that it would be nice to have a new standard format that isn't nearing it's 30th birthday.  Oh, and I do own a copy of Dark Side of the Moon on SACD... although I never did get a special player to play it on.

stevierayk
#62 posted by
stevierayk
on Oct 03, 2012

@EricR - I have a DVD Audio player. I can produce my own discs but beyond that there is nothing.

Too bad.

marie_curious
#63 posted by
marie_curious
on Oct 03, 2012

I'm still using the CD stereo I was gifted in the nineties. As someone who values conservation of resources over the endless search for better sound quality, I find it ideal.

hotpatch
#64 posted by
hotpatch
on Oct 03, 2012

carrieg, 56, he plays drums and a mean tambourine

zammachus
#65 posted by
zammachus
on Oct 03, 2012

I feel audio fidelity is like the 'wine bracket' from Corner Gas. For some, once you've gone up a step you can't go back. When you hear a defect of lower-quality music, you can't un-hear it.

For me, I recently had the 'crushed' sound pointed out to me and found this group as a result.

aaronbb
#66 posted by
aaronbb
on Oct 03, 2012

Pono apparently not at Pono.com - that was not cool at the office. Future note to self. When Craig says check it up on the blog - do that first.

marie_curious
#67 posted by
marie_curious
on Oct 03, 2012

@aaronbb: Now I have to know what it was you saw..

stevierayk
#68 posted by
stevierayk
on Oct 03, 2012

@MC - maybe I could interest you in a 1.3 megapixel camera.....going cheap!

StephRamsahai
#69 posted by
StephRamsahai
on Oct 03, 2012

CRAIG!

I'M FALLING ASLEEP! WHAT'S WITH THE MELLOW TUNES, DUDE!?

:)

StephRamsahai
#70 posted by
StephRamsahai
on Oct 03, 2012

This is better. :)

zammachus
#71 posted by
zammachus
on Oct 03, 2012

Steph

Do you need him to play some Kathleen Edwards to get your blood boiling?

canadajanes
#72 posted by
canadajanes
on Oct 03, 2012

Morning! I do enjoy listening to vinyl but in general, I haven't noticed that sound quality makes a huge difference to me.

StephRamsahai
#73 posted by
StephRamsahai
on Oct 03, 2012

@zammachus - No.

marie_curious
#74 posted by
marie_curious
on Oct 03, 2012

@srk: I've already got one. It's around here somewhere... Frankly though, I prefer my mom's 1970's 35mm. It's just too bad no one develops film anymore.

stevierayk
#75 posted by
stevierayk
on Oct 03, 2012

@MC - Kinda like me and my record player - analog triumphs over digital.

zammachus
#76 posted by
zammachus
on Oct 03, 2012

I won't buy a Pono until I see what kind of musical diversity is available on the Pono store.

wrobot
#77 posted by
wrobot
on Oct 03, 2012

@zammachus (#65) - thanks for the great link!  Fidelity matters when you want it to...as "loudness wars" link high-lights, music needs dynamics.  It's as much a factor of song writing as it is the recording process. Taking the dynamics out of music is like taking the heart and soul out of it.

 

Great spacey tunes this morning Craig!

smalliebigs
#78 posted by
smalliebigs
on Oct 03, 2012

I'd never heard of a "Pono" before today. 

I think I might be in the camp of people for whom audio fidelity doesn't really matter, in large part because I may not have ever heard something in really high quality (or maybe I haven't heard the same track in two formats back to back so that I could compare easily). 

Craig Norris
#79 posted by
Craig Norris
on Oct 03, 2012

@wrobot [77] Agreed!

zammachus
#80 posted by
zammachus
on Oct 03, 2012

My brother is a huge audiophile. He has headphones that require their own amplifier.

Tom Power
#81 posted by
Tom Power
on Oct 03, 2012

Hey Craigger. Where ya to? 

Oh - and I have a tape of White Zombie that sounds fine to me. THANK you very much.

zammachus
#82 posted by
zammachus
on Oct 03, 2012

Speaking of going back to older technologies...

I dug out my dad's boxed sets of M*A*S*H over the weekend. The first season is on VHS. Holy crap does it look awful on a 50" 1080p TV.

marie_curious
#83 posted by
marie_curious
on Oct 03, 2012

@TomPower: At first glance I thought your post [81] was about actual zombies. Then I was disappointed.

StephRamsahai
#84 posted by
StephRamsahai
on Oct 03, 2012

@Tom - Which one!? I have a White Zombie tape! 

EricR
#85 posted by
EricR
on Oct 03, 2012

Hey - speaking of all this stuff, what the heck does "Mastered for iTunes" mean?  I think the new Stars album had this label attached...

Craig Norris
#86 posted by
Craig Norris
on Oct 03, 2012

@Tom Power [81] I have no idea what you're saying? Speak Canadian, please.

marie_curious
#87 posted by
marie_curious
on Oct 03, 2012

Zammy: There is one episode on the DVD sets of M*A*S*H that is really grainy because the original master tape was lost and the episode was only available through a tape-recorded copy.

flannel tom
#88 posted by
flannel tom
on Oct 03, 2012

Gooooooooood morning.

Busy guy over here lately at work (points at self) but I thought I'd say, I've been listening to the new Cuff The Duke and I really, really, really like it! Like, "like" like it. Only problem it's too short and so I need to hit repeat immediately. Not that that is really a problem.

On another note, how do people afford houses (or condos, even)? Seriously? Are people making pacts with the devil and I just don't know about it? Sakes alive, housing is expensive in this godforsaken city.

stevierayk
#89 posted by
stevierayk
on Oct 03, 2012

@FT - I made all my money selling Deer Cocain. 

zammachus
#90 posted by
zammachus
on Oct 03, 2012

Escher

We have a DVD copy of a first-series episode of Doctor Who. The tapes were stored in such wretched conditions that they've only retained about 10% of the video. The audio track, if I recall correctly, is mostly safe. It's like an episode of Theatre of the Mind with occasional visual cues.

Craig Norris
#91 posted by
Craig Norris
on Oct 03, 2012

By #89, srk means he sold cocain to deer.

I'm not making that up.

It wasn't very lucrative.

smalliebigs
#92 posted by
smalliebigs
on Oct 03, 2012

@Ftom: I feel like a lot of the people I know who are my age and have houses are in debt to their eyeballs...or have wealthy families. Neither apply to me, so I rent, rent, rent. 

astorrrmt
#93 posted by
astorrrmt
on Oct 03, 2012

goodmonring! happy wenzzzday!

laurenelizabeth
#94 posted by
laurenelizabeth
on Oct 03, 2012

Holy Crap. 

Rich Aucoin is home in Halifax the Remembrance Day long weekend and announced his biggest show YET! 

"Walls of video screens, a surround sound system and more parachutes, balloons and confetti than you previously though possible"

THE BEST PART. I'm in Halifax that weekend to visit my in-laws.

marie_curious
#95 posted by
marie_curious
on Oct 03, 2012

@Zammy: That sounds like a headache. At least in M*A*S*H the lost epidode was a clip show, so I don't mind skipping it. Not that M*A*S*H had any continuity anyway.

tea&cartography
#96 posted by
tea&cartography
on Oct 03, 2012

@ftom

Agreed.

Seems like a person needs to get hitched or move to Kaladar to be able to afford a place to live and still have fun.

marie_curious
#97 posted by
marie_curious
on Oct 03, 2012

Is this a different version of Gosh Darn Damn, or am I just having a stroke?

StephRamsahai
#98 posted by
StephRamsahai
on Oct 03, 2012

Oh man! Haven't heard this Rebekah Higgs tune in a while! Love it!

It's like an account of my everyday in this city! 

Craig Norris
#99 posted by
Craig Norris
on Oct 03, 2012

@Steph [98] Except you don't curse like that.

Tom Power
#100 posted by
Tom Power
on Oct 03, 2012

@Steph - Astro Creep 2000. Yeeaaaaah...

StephRamsahai
#101 posted by
StephRamsahai
on Oct 03, 2012

@marie - I was thinking the same thing. I'm pretty sure Craig is playing the high fidelity version of songs to mess with our heads! 

StephRamsahai
#102 posted by
StephRamsahai
on Oct 03, 2012

@Craig - True, I'm much less brash than Ms. Higgs!

StephRamsahai
#103 posted by
StephRamsahai
on Oct 03, 2012

@Tom - Haha! Amazing. I have Make Them Die Slowly!

flannel tom
#104 posted by
flannel tom
on Oct 03, 2012

@t'n'c - or move back to small town nova scotia where you can buy a nice house for 100g or less. (100 would be a really nice house.)

@smallie - same here... rentrent rent. I'm starting to hate it though. You can't buy a shitty bungalow in a horrible part of town for less than 175-200 here. A normal part of town is like, 350-400.

@srk/craigger T Norris - Deer cocain is a very up and down market. One must be persistant.

zammachus
#105 posted by
zammachus
on Oct 03, 2012

Escher

I don't think it was a different version... but I haven't heard it in a while so I can't be sure.

As for M*A*S*H, I don't mind the reduced quality so long as the tracking is working. That takes some effort. Our VCR is young... for a VCR.

Craig

Thank you for playing more older music. The variety I've heard of late is tremendously refreshing and much appreciated.

smalliebigs
#106 posted by
smalliebigs
on Oct 03, 2012

@Craig: I second Zamm's comment about the variety. They say that variety is the spice of life. I'm still kind of convinced that paprika is the spice of life, but variety is awesome, too. 

stevierayk
#107 posted by
stevierayk
on Oct 03, 2012

cumin is the spice of life.

mcfflyer
#108 posted by
mcfflyer
on Oct 03, 2012

Fourth and final hour, eh?  Well, it had better be good, Craig. 

jdurley
#109 posted by
jdurley
on Oct 03, 2012

Happy Wenzdee!

Poll Question:   Would I buy a Neil Young porno?  No.  Is fidelity important to me?  Yes, I think cheating is a bad idea.

stevierayk
#110 posted by
stevierayk
on Oct 03, 2012

Buying a house is probably the best investment you can make. Their value tends to rise and instead of putting money in the landlords pocket you get futher ahead.

generating the down payment etc etc. does blow though.

Craig Norris
#111 posted by
Craig Norris
on Oct 03, 2012

@srk [110] Especially if your only source of income relies on selling cocain to deer.

stevierayk
#112 posted by
stevierayk
on Oct 03, 2012

All the deer in my neighbourhood are on to Meth now.

I've got to draw the line somewhere.

flannel tom
#113 posted by
flannel tom
on Oct 03, 2012

@srk - It's good to know you have ethics.

EP
#114 posted by
EP
on Oct 03, 2012

Who knew that selling drugs to deer could generate so much doe.  I guess people are willing to do anything to make a quick buck these days.

laurita.snow
#115 posted by
laurita.snow
on Oct 03, 2012

howdy all! been a while! how's it going, blogland?

flannel tom
#116 posted by
flannel tom
on Oct 03, 2012

Or would that be morals? I'm not sure when it comes to drug dealing which it would be.... unethical or immoral to sell meth to deer?

Maybe a little of column A and a little of column B.

mcfflyer
#117 posted by
mcfflyer
on Oct 03, 2012

Hey, don't you folks up north have a Thanksgiving or something coming up soon?  There has been a sudden influx of turkeys making a run for it over our northern border.

EricR
#118 posted by
EricR
on Oct 03, 2012

@Lee -- yes, next Monday we'll be feasting on fowl.  Better yet, it means a short work-week to follow!

zammachus
#119 posted by
zammachus
on Oct 03, 2012

Lee

Good thing my parents are in Maine to set the trap.

jdurley
#120 posted by
jdurley
on Oct 03, 2012

@EP #114 - Oh, deer, those are some bad puns.

laurita.snow
#121 posted by
laurita.snow
on Oct 03, 2012

@ Lee-yes, we do! this weekend!

also-am I the  only one who's  never heard of a pono before? i do admit that I notice a difference between records and CDs, hell, even with m4as and MP3s, but not so much that I'd actually go and get a record player or whatever. I can't really afford to be an audiophile...

hotpatch
#122 posted by
hotpatch
on Oct 03, 2012

jdurley, 109, i saw NY on cable the other night at the Glastonbury Festival; decided then and there that i would not by any Neil Young porno

laurita.snow
#123 posted by
laurita.snow
on Oct 03, 2012

@ EricR-this is actually the first time I'm working at a job where we get benefits like thanksgiving monday off! woooo! although I'll miss those little coconut heads...

zammachus
#124 posted by
zammachus
on Oct 03, 2012

Laurita

You can't really afford it... yet.

mcfflyer
#125 posted by
mcfflyer
on Oct 03, 2012

Wow.  Eating turkey in October.  What's the world coming to?

Snowing up there yet?

zammachus
#126 posted by
zammachus
on Oct 03, 2012

Lee

In some areas, yes.

smalliebigs
#127 posted by
smalliebigs
on Oct 03, 2012

I'm going to go on the record and say that there is no punnier group of people than the folks 'round these parts. Ron Maclean could learn a thing or two. 

@Lee: it is snowing in Calgary and a couple other places. Edmonton is on the verge. 

erinev
#128 posted by
erinev
on Oct 03, 2012

@ Lee- DO NOT SAY THE "S" WORD YET!!

EricR
#129 posted by
EricR
on Oct 03, 2012

Fidelity aside, what really kills me the most is listening to music with only one earbud in ... I wouldn't mind if the sound was mono, but hearing only half the band is quite frustrating at times!

JonDixon
#130 posted by
JonDixon
on Oct 03, 2012

@mcflyer as a matter of fact it snowed here on Monday.

*note that I don't speak for all of Canada

canadajanes
#131 posted by
canadajanes
on Oct 03, 2012

Weather update for Southern Ontario? Should I pack a sweater for this weekend?

laurita.snow
#132 posted by
laurita.snow
on Oct 03, 2012

also also-speaking of Neil Young:

A young man I was seeing during my last little while in Montreal had some sort of 'two-for-one' ticket deal at a movie theatre, so we decided to go spur-of-the-moment. we just happened to walk in when the Neil Young movie was starting. we are both music enthusiasts and it was almost like seeing a Neil Young concert! they even played Helpless while showing shots of the town that the song is about! I just about died.

Absotively
#133 posted by
Absotively
on Oct 03, 2012

Not an audiophile, happy with mp3s.

But what was wrong with flac?

zammachus
#134 posted by
zammachus
on Oct 03, 2012

CJ

It's probably a good idea to. The weather has been fluctuating a great deal here on the fringe of S. Ontario. It's allegedly getting up to 21 today but the nights are getting downright chilly. Still awaiting our first frost, though.

flannel tom
#135 posted by
flannel tom
on Oct 03, 2012

8 inches if snow in northern alberta already. but that's like, real north. supposed to be flurries here soon. That sucks.

laurita.snow
#136 posted by
laurita.snow
on Oct 03, 2012

@CJ: I would, yeah. the weather has been very unpredictable. often you can wear t-shirts and a light cardigan during the day and then need a sweater and maybe a light jacket that same night. cray-cray!

EP
#137 posted by
EP
on Oct 03, 2012

@cj: highs of ~15C with chances of showers.  (weatheroffice)

marie_curious
#138 posted by
marie_curious
on Oct 03, 2012

@Canadajanes: What part of S Ontario are you going to be?

Cicero
#139 posted by
Cicero
on Oct 03, 2012

Hey y'all!

 

zammachus
#140 posted by
zammachus
on Oct 03, 2012

Absotively

Most music players don't support flac. I don't know the specs of either but maybe Pono is better than flac?

flannel tom
#141 posted by
flannel tom
on Oct 03, 2012

It was 27 on Saturday.... this week its getting down to -8.

 

JonDixon
#142 posted by
JonDixon
on Oct 03, 2012

@CJ make sure to pack your cardigans...

smalliebigs
#143 posted by
smalliebigs
on Oct 03, 2012

@Laurita: that sounds like a solid "social engagement". Also, you referred to him as a "young man". It sounds like my old man way of telling stories is rubbing off on you. 

 

canadajanes
#144 posted by
canadajanes
on Oct 03, 2012

Zammie/Laurita/EP - Can't wait for some cold weather! I miss the North!

Marie - Spending Thanksgiving with my parents in St Thomas, Ontario.

laurita.snow
#145 posted by
laurita.snow
on Oct 03, 2012

Hey Cicero!

@ Zamm: true. I can afford it after I buy the 7 albums on my list, and a new pair of pants, and a new pair of shoes, and...

Hedgehogfriend
#146 posted by
Hedgehogfriend
on Oct 03, 2012

Hey blog-land been too busy to blog but enjoying the show!  Snow -- yes, please!  It's freakishly warm in Montreal today, can't wait for the white stuff!

POLL QUESTION: I'm so jaded by this Pono thing -- Neil Young was talking about the piss-poor quality of MP3 players awhile ago and now I know why: he's getting ready to sell his own "technology".  I love listening to high quality sound but I don't want to get suckered...so I'll take it when I can get it but won't go out of my way for it...

Gobble gobble gobble!  See you guys later!

mcfflyer
#147 posted by
mcfflyer
on Oct 03, 2012

Each morning, I get up watching The Weather Channel, and this week, I've seen white and purple on the map in the region from Montana through Minnesota.  Whoa.  Snow? 

We just had one of our hottest Septembers ever, and yesterday it was 99F/37C.  Today its supposed to be 95F/35C.  Heck, I had to have the a/c on in the house last night because it didn't cool off.  But tomorrow, we'll finally get a cool down to 82F/28C.  Finally.  And our trees are still vivid green.

kirkofdoom
#148 posted by
kirkofdoom
on Oct 03, 2012

it's snowing in vancovuer right now

....

bahaha, just kidding, it's supposed to be sunny for the next week or so. 

laurita.snow
#149 posted by
laurita.snow
on Oct 03, 2012

@ Smallie: it was a solid 'social engagement', yes! and yes, in order to lighten the mood of the story I may or may not have stolen that old man way of talking from you...

Absotively
#150 posted by
Absotively
on Oct 03, 2012

@Zamm: I think flac can be as good as you want it to be.  And most music players don't support pono yet, either.

My suspicious side thinks the actual "benefit" of pono is going to be drm.

zammachus
#151 posted by
zammachus
on Oct 03, 2012

Laurita

You can afford it after you become the female Christopher Plummer.

EP
#152 posted by
EP
on Oct 03, 2012

Flac can be converted to any quality level of mp3 fairly easily, cant it?

laurita.snow
#153 posted by
laurita.snow
on Oct 03, 2012

also @ Smallie: how did the social engagement go with the lovely woman with expensive taste in wines? mind you, I guess this is not really a blog topic  @_@@ Kirk: NOOOOOOOOOO! NEVARRR!

I adore snow (see CBC name) and have a tradition each year of bothering all of my friends during the first snow of the year (I have knocked on some of their doors in an attempt to drag them out into the fluffy whiteness) but NOT YET, DAMMIT! 

laurita.snow
#154 posted by
laurita.snow
on Oct 03, 2012

oh wow. "@_@@Kirk:" ----> typing fail!

Absotively
#155 posted by
Absotively
on Oct 03, 2012

@EP: Yup.

 

TheIceman
#156 posted by
TheIceman
on Oct 03, 2012

Hi Folks.

.

.

.

That's all!

laurita.snow
#157 posted by
laurita.snow
on Oct 03, 2012

@ Zamm: howzabout becoming the next Helen Mirren? that woman is amazing.

binsy
#158 posted by
binsy
on Oct 03, 2012

Hey everyone! Looking good!

Has this been discussed yet?

Looper. 

Terrible. 

laurita.snow
#159 posted by
laurita.snow
on Oct 03, 2012

and yes, it would be completely impossible to become the next Helen Mirren. but still.

Cicero
#160 posted by
Cicero
on Oct 03, 2012

@Laurita - Hey lady! how goes?!

 

re: Snow - it's snowing today in Calgary, and I've been blessed with the gift of CBC cold weather gear, so now I am decked out in my I (not heart) R3 t-shirt, my R3 toque, and my R3 scarf. In my cubicle. Cause that's how I roll. CBC big.

smalliebigs
#161 posted by
smalliebigs
on Oct 03, 2012

@Blog: speaking of COLD WEATHER, does anyone have a recommendation as to where I can get a nice fall coat? Something stylish, leaning more toward the dressy (something that could be worn to work), but ideally something that could still be worn with a pair of nice sneakers. THOUGHTS? 

@Laurita: borrowed, not stole. I'm happy to lend my story telling style to you, young lady ;)

laurita.snow
#162 posted by
laurita.snow
on Oct 03, 2012

@ Binsy: heh heh, the aforementioned young man in Montreal might take issue with that statement! and so might KT Tunstall...

Shonica
#163 posted by
Shonica
on Oct 03, 2012

I have been busy this morning, but I am interested in hearing music using Pono. It seems like Neil Young has been talking about this for years and years, nice to see he's finally done it.

@FT Loving the new Cuff the Duke too! 

@Mcfflyer Turkey dinner on Sunday

mcfflyer
#164 posted by
mcfflyer
on Oct 03, 2012

@Cicero/Natasha - ever get that TV table built?

smalliebigs
#165 posted by
smalliebigs
on Oct 03, 2012

@Laurita: ahaha, I decided that it was perhaps for the best that I no longer see this young lady. We are "friends" (I hope), but at the end of the day it just seemed like a few things didn't click. 

MORE RE COLD WEATHER: I am in no way looking forward to it getting colder. Apparently I should move. 

laurita.snow
#166 posted by
laurita.snow
on Oct 03, 2012

@ Smallie: right right, borrowed. my bad. and thank you, good sir!

also-your comment makes me glad that I have to wear my dorkiest, workout-iest clothes to work, complete with an Ottawa South Community Association t-shirt. trying to find dressy clothes for work is a skill I do not appear to possess. and I'm sorry that things did not work out with the young lady. 

@ Cicero: it's snowing there???!?!?!?! !!!!!!!!!

EP
#167 posted by
EP
on Oct 03, 2012

@Absotively:  exactly. so buy the highest rate you can (Flac, 320kbps, whatever) and convert to a lower rate for your portible devices, if you need to for space/compatibility.

Cicero
#168 posted by
Cicero
on Oct 03, 2012

@Lee - I did! It took me 4 hours, and I stepped on a nail, and there were left over bits (they weren't even in the instructions, AT ALL! I checked it like 12 times to make sure, so I'm pretty sure I just got the end of a wierd IKEA assembly line worker prank) but it is built and sturdy. I'm thinking of watching Pride and Prejudice on it tonight.

Oh god, oh god. I think this cold is going to kill me.

Absotively
#169 posted by
Absotively
on Oct 03, 2012

@EP: Yup.

So if we can already do that, what use is Pono?

Shonica
#170 posted by
Shonica
on Oct 03, 2012

SNOW.....

Is in the forecast for Friday!!!!

This has been such a strange week for weather! Summer clothes and sandals on Monday and the snow on Friday!

 

Cicero
#171 posted by
Cicero
on Oct 03, 2012

@Laurita - it is snowing - little bitty flakes, but snow nonetheless.

laurita.snow
#172 posted by
laurita.snow
on Oct 03, 2012

also re: cold weather-I am always incredibly amused by comparing my friends' reactions to snow, depending on where they live. friends in Montreal and Ottawa are like "-28 and 3 feet of snow? BRING IT." friends in Alberta/Manitoba are like "-40??? NO PROBLEM." friends in Toronto are like "OMG THERE'S A CENTIMETRE OF SNOW ON THE GROUND AND IT'S -15 WHAT DO WE DO?!?!"

left and leaving
#173 posted by
left and leaving
on Oct 03, 2012

Sound fidelity aside, how fuckin' cool is Neil Young?

mcfflyer
#174 posted by
mcfflyer
on Oct 03, 2012

We are actually forecasted to have a wet and snowy winter here in Northern California - thank goodness.  But it's been nothing but blazing sunshine for months and months and months...  And I'm tired of it.  I'm looking forward to feeling a little crispness in the air. 

Shonica
#175 posted by
Shonica
on Oct 03, 2012

@L&L #173

The coolest!

zammachus
#176 posted by
zammachus
on Oct 03, 2012

Just saw and shared this on facebook but thought it was worth copying over here.

This is how you combat bullying.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=3824560741502

erinev
#177 posted by
erinev
on Oct 03, 2012

remember that time the city of Toronto had to call in the army to deal with their snow?

binsy
#178 posted by
binsy
on Oct 03, 2012

left and leaving #173

Excellent point!

laurita.snow
#179 posted by
laurita.snow
on Oct 03, 2012

I love winter, but I much prefer the damper, snowy-er variety. I absolutely despise the dry, cracking cold that we'd get in Montreal. it is a windy town!

binsy
#180 posted by
binsy
on Oct 03, 2012

Oh man! Are we in the trance music outro already?

flannel tom
#181 posted by
flannel tom
on Oct 03, 2012

remember when CD's were like, $27 for a 30 minute punk album and since there was no such thing as the internet, you had to buy the CD in order to actually hear the album? Like, what punker kid had $27? Needless to say, in my town we all had tapes that were like, the 5th copy made off some rich kids Cd. The audio quality was.... not outstanding but otherwise, where would I have heard SNFU, NOFX, Minor Threat, Sex Pistols, etc, etc.

canadajanes
#182 posted by
canadajanes
on Oct 03, 2012

Houston had a snow day when it didn't even snow. That was fun.

left and leaving
#183 posted by
left and leaving
on Oct 03, 2012

@Shonica -- good. Just felt the need to get that out there. So admirable that he's out there, still creating (good) music, invested in the craft, innovating. What a guy.

Cicero
#184 posted by
Cicero
on Oct 03, 2012

@Laurita- AHahahhahaha! So true! Don't forget Vancouver in there! Or the prairie windchill! it's more like "-40 with a windchill of -45? Drift so thick you're wading through a wall of white? NO BIG DEAL, GUYS."

 

@Craig, can you play Maybe Smith's "You would never survive the winters in this province"?

deiru
#185 posted by
deiru
on Oct 03, 2012

I don't understand why this is a big deal there ready exists a high quilty low compression audio formate out there, and it's called FLAC. This seems reather late in the game and just way for people to make more money.

nvp
#186 posted by
nvp
on Oct 03, 2012

just checked in.

can't find any jokes referencing ponography.  or the new ponographers

what's the deal?

Absotively
#187 posted by
Absotively
on Oct 03, 2012

@Deiru: I said this above, but I'm putting my money on Pono having DRM.

laurita.snow
#188 posted by
laurita.snow
on Oct 03, 2012

@ Zamm: that is an absolutely wonderful video. thank you for sharing!

binsy
#189 posted by
binsy
on Oct 03, 2012

@nvp

This blog is all class. 

laurita.snow
#190 posted by
laurita.snow
on Oct 03, 2012

actually @ Cicero: most of my friends from Vancity were in Montreal during the winter for school with me, so I didn't really hear much about winters on the west coast. I had a friend from Winnipeg who was an older woman though, and whenever it was like -30 and my friend Jenn and I were complaining she'd be all like SUCK IT UP PRINCESSES.

laurita.snow
#191 posted by
laurita.snow
on Oct 03, 2012

by older woman I mean she remembered Winnipeg winters well. wow. that was a really bad explanation.

laurita.snow
#192 posted by
laurita.snow
on Oct 03, 2012

@ Erin-hahahaha they did?? oh man.

Shonica
#193 posted by
Shonica
on Oct 03, 2012

Meeting for this afternoon and tomorrow will keep me off the blog and prevent me from listening to R3! I will miss the music and the excellent conversation! 

zammachus
#194 posted by
zammachus
on Oct 03, 2012

Worth pointing out: If it were't for facebook, YouTube, etc. then the campaign against those photos and videos wouldn't have been necessary...

(I'm saying that b/c facebook is holding it up as a trophy.)

stevierayk
#195 posted by
stevierayk
on Oct 03, 2012

Flac and Pono are miles away from one another.

jdurley
#196 posted by
jdurley
on Oct 03, 2012

@flanneltom - I remember using my tape recorder to record my favourite songs off of AM Radio.

Craig Norris
#197 posted by
Craig Norris
on Oct 03, 2012

Tomorrow on The Craig Norris Hour..

Because we're on the threshold of Thanksgiving Weekend, I want to know what you're giving thanks for this year!

laurita.snow
#198 posted by
laurita.snow
on Oct 03, 2012

@ Zamm: excellent point, sir!

laurita.snow
#199 posted by
laurita.snow
on Oct 03, 2012

@ Craig: awwww. that is a lovely topic! 

 

left and leaving
#200 posted by
left and leaving
on Oct 03, 2012

@zamm -- an interesting point, but it is kind of like saying if it wasn't for underwear bullies wouldn't be able to give wedgies, isn't it? ;)

Shonica
#201 posted by
Shonica
on Oct 03, 2012

See now I am sorry I will miss tomorrow even more!

laurita.snow
#202 posted by
laurita.snow
on Oct 03, 2012

@ Zamm: mind you, there might still have been lots of wagging tongues about how he  'couldn't make a save' or whatever. which would be horrible.

smalliebigs
#203 posted by
smalliebigs
on Oct 03, 2012

@L&L: and that, my friend, is why I go commando to this very day. 

laurita.snow
#204 posted by
laurita.snow
on Oct 03, 2012

@ Smalliebigs:

......................................

jdurley
#205 posted by
jdurley
on Oct 03, 2012

#204 + 1

smalliebigs
#206 posted by
smalliebigs
on Oct 03, 2012

...

zammachus
#207 posted by
zammachus
on Oct 03, 2012

Oh I'm not saying the bullying wouldn't have happened. I'm sure it would have. As I said, I'm making the comment b/c facebook is holding it up like they were a part of it.

The users were completely responsible for it. facebook was merely the medium.

owevers
#208 posted by
owevers
on Oct 03, 2012

Audio quality is lower on the priority list than musical experience/enjoyment...love live music and you know how much that can be different than well produced albums, but still out we go...

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